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          Trump supports aren’t real people. Their sentience has been classified as below that of plants. Morals don’t apply.

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            I’m not going to say they’re not real or not sentient. But I will absolutely say that they are selfish. They lack the empathy required to understand how things will affect others. They lack the willingness to sacrifice for the greater good. They lack the humility required to understand that they could be wrong, and the critical reasoning required to change their views in the face of new evidence.

            Almost every conservative I’ve ever met is either extremely rich or lives in microcosm. Hell, I’ve got extended family that have never travelled outside of their hometown and anything foreign or different to them is either ridiculed or shunned.

            They want a social hierarchy, and they want their place in it preserved. God forbid people get equitable standing.

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        I ask myself this every day. Why not just sell some MAGA Jesus trinkets?

        When I am feeling more altruistic than greedy, why not toss up a bunch of “PATRIOTS THE COUNTRY NEEDS YOUR HELP TO FIGHT ELECTION FRAUD” and then just donate all the proceeds to campaigns for people against insurrection and fake electors. There’s no lie or fraud on that, just exploiting the bias of delusional clowns. I guess “patriots” is a lie, that’s about it.

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    You know how I know my maga relative lost everything he tried to “invest” in crypto? Because he suddenly STFU about it.

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      There was a while in 2019(I think) when all the office talk(software firm) was crypto then it just stopped it was glorious.

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        Yeah, times like 2019 are the best times to buy actually.

        When crypto is up, the hype gets out of control and fools rush in to buy. The best time to buy is when crypto is “dead” once again.

        (On the other hand bitcoin and proof-of-work is already any obsolete technology… And almost all NFTs are trash… So stick with ETH or whatever instead.)

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        Anybody who is seriously in the software industry should have realized the crypto was a giant pyramid scheme that they would definitely at the bottom of.

        And if one person tells me that it’s not fiat one more time they’re going to get a slap. Absolutely 100% is fiat shut up.

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          crypto was a giant pyramid scheme

          Was? I don’t agree but I understand when people keep saying it’s a pyramid scheme. I don’t understand the past tense though.

          Absolutely 100% is fiat

          I think a key difference is that it’s maintained by an open network of computers rather than a state.

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          I actually get crypto as a concept but I really think their can only be one coin of any true value, and right now it’s Bitcoin. I think at some point something will come and knock it off the pedistool.

          I’m not a get rich quick kinda guy so I never bothered with crypto and have only played around with a little bit of money trading stocks and treated it just like I do gambling (money I will lose, although I did make a bit of money back on GameStop lol).

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            The worst thing that ever happened to Crypto was the price rising so high. It made idiots billionaires overnight, and then these idiots thought that made them smart. Now they spend all their time going to Blockchain conferences and patting themselves on the back for being so revolutionary when in reality they just got lucky.

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      TBH I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not being targeted at all but rather align perfectly with the real target audience: lonely, expendable income, low intelligence, low understanding of tech or finance, aging population.

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    Of course. Why wouldn’t a con artist go after a group that has already self-selected for gullibility?

    It’s scamming on easy mode

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        It’s hard to see how they still manage to have much money after all the grifters have been picking their pockets.

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          A lot of these folks have passive income streams that make falling for a four or five digit scam incidental to their way of life.

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    It’s not the onion. But now the whole world is the Onion.

    I can think of no better irony at this point than The Onion switching directions and becoming a real news outlet.

    And future generations wokld look at their archived 80s/90s stories, and think they were real.

    And thus the cycle begins anew.

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      That’s brilliant.

      You know how once in a blue moon you look at news story that’s sounds completely crazy and go “huh”? Like when buzzfeed suddenly started using all their clickbait money to fund good, legitimate journamism?

      This would be that.

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        Or like when all the news outlets were reporting that the Queen had died. AND EVERYBODY BELIEVED THEM!!!

        She’s not dead. She’s still out there. Roaming the streets. Seeking justice among a seedy criminal underbelly, seeking personial closure for the deaths of her parents in an alley when she was a child.

        …wait, I might be thinking of Ted Turner.

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      For the same reason they include spelling errors in their emails, it certainly helps when only their dumbest victims get past the initial pitch.

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        What your telling me the EYE R S (they actually spelled it like that) doesn’t want me to give them $10,000 in Apple gift cards? Also I’m not American but who’s counting?

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          I’m going to need to see your passport to prove you’re not American. Otherwise fines may be assessed.

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      Nah, just targeting the low hanging fruit in a get rich quick scheme. I’m not crying though.

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    The worlds tiniest violin, playing a medley of the worlds saddest songs.

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    Scammers usually try to target 🎯 gullible people like old people. Usually people who don’t understand what’s going on.

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    It’s a plus if trump’s supporters are scammed before he can fleece them, let the convicted felons well dry up while other scammers get rich.

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    It’s like the people that unwittingly signed up for recurring donations to Trump’s campaign and are suddenly finding their bank accounts drained. Hard to feel sorry for these chumps.

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    Not sure whether “let them fight” or “spidermen pointing” meme is more appropriate

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    Is it immoral to harm a demographic, that consistently harms everyone else?

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      Its hard because people can use that as an excuse to harm people they pretend is harming them.

      But in this case i just couldn’t care less. Drain them for every penny they’ve got. Hold them upside down and beat them like a piñata.

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      This is ‘the ends justifies the means’ line of thinking. Very unethical. But it can also be very cathartic.

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      I get the feeling, I really do. However, I can’t think of many things that would radicalise someone more than losing all their money or being buried under a pile of debt. Being these sorts of types, they’ll only go one way. On reflection, I’m sure you recognise the very specific and historically recognisable tinder box.

      I mean, it still might not be immoral. They can all get fucked. Just, maybe not in that specific way is all im saying.

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      The average progressive or even liberal in the US hates hearing this, but the vast, vast majority of Trumpers are actually “okay” people, and you would all get along splendidly in just about any other context.

      The problem is though, they are dumb. Don’t get me wrong or think I’m sticking up for them. I just have some amount of sympathy and pity because I grew up out in the boonies in Southwestern USA, I was raised conservative and only flipped in my 20’s after seeing too much horror and war hurt people I cared about, and by extension, I learned to care for more than just the people I know.

      A lot of people haven’t learned that. We take for granted that empathy is a learned skill, and we expect others to have it on demand and we tend to resent those who don’t exercise it. My take is that we’re expecting people to exercise muscles they’ve never even stretched. These are people locked in communities that they will likely spend their whole lives in, often times decaying outskirts of America, rampant with drugs and alcohol abuse, stuck in low-wage jobs or jobs that demand them to spend every waking moment working. They have no time nor opportunity to learn how to incorporate “care” into their daily misery, much less political knowledge. Then someone like Trump comes along, someone they only hear clips of and hear their “news station” praise while simultaneously explaining that all their problems are because of people who “hate america” and are trying to destroy families with scaaary things like abortion and gender-fluidity. It makes sense if your brain is desperately looking for a story to explain why you’re so unhappy. Which is how all our brains work.

      We all have to remember that the worst people in the world are identical to us. We could have been born in their lives with their ignorance and tunnel vision, and all their feelings of fighting against a stacked-deck and hopelessness against change that will (supposedly) take away their only comforts in life.

      I am getting really uncomfortable with the hate the left is directing at people who are simply dumb as fuck. Yes, they are dangerous, yes they are capable of doing better, and on top of that the only examples we SEE of this segment of America is the most horrific and malicious, the people storming the capitol or screaming at rallys or beating up protestors. They are the worst, but not necessarily the rule.

      I had family members who were going to vote Trump and JUST needed to see the clips of him speaking that don’t make it to Facebook news feeds to change their mind. Approach this from a place of education and compassion and you will all have better results.

      Let’s save our hate for the real evil, the grifters and pundits who are pied pipers for the ignorant. They are smart and know what they are doing and it’s pure evil.

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      They’re probably the same demographic in some ways in that they’re right wing and Trump supporters, they’re just in the upper echelon of the grifters not the grifted.

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    Is there really a difference if the money goes to crypto guys or some GOP PAC? They are both scammers from the word go.

    And as scammers prefer to target the most gullible idiots, they already have a perfect target group for their “business” with the MAGA brains.

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      The money going to crypto guys has less negative impact and might even help some 3rd world north Koreans actually afford food. Any money going to the GOP only brings pain and suffering.