Before you share the Netflix documentary “AI Gone Rogue” with family or friends to help them understand why the AI industry freaked out so badly that leaders called for a slowdown, take note: Clem Delangue, co-founder and CEO of the AI platform Hugging Face, says the film isn’t accurate. He appears in it because it’s supposed to be about the famed attack on his company by rogue OpenAI agents.
“Super disappointing, as they went for maximum anthropomorphism of the technology and full doomer mode,” Delangue wrote in a post on X. “I spent more than two hours with them trying to correct all their mistakes and ground this in reality, explaining that agents are technological systems, not aliens. But it looks like the drive to scare people for maximum views was too strong.”
You knew the documentary was fake when the word Netflix preceded it.
Why would accuracy matter to someone whose product’s MO is to be confidently incorrect?
So the documentary is exactly like every other thing having to do with AI?
And like AI itself.
Suppose there’s a reason that ‘netflix adaption’ became a meme in its own right.
We already know that the product has no volition of its own.
You and I and lemmy know, but a shocking percentage of people do not.
I use ChatGPT (free, never gonna pay) about once a day and because of the natural language answers, I find myself asking questions in natural language, a way I’d never type into a Google search bar.
Natural language searches in Google worked much better before A I than they do now.
“Super disappointing, as they went for maximum anthropomorphism of the technology and full doomer mode,” Delangue wrote in a post on X. “I spent more than two hours with them trying to correct all their mistakes and ground this in reality, explaining that agents are technological systems, not aliens. But it looks like the drive to scare people for maximum views was too strong.”
If you can’t argue the point, arguge the tone.
Hastings also was asked about Netflix’s decision to remove an episode of “Patriot Act With Hasan Minhaj” in Saudi Arabia after the government threatened the company over a segment in which the comedian criticized Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (aka MBS) and the regime’s role in the murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
“We’re not in the news business,” Hastings said. “We’re not trying to do ‘truth to power.’ We’re trying to entertain… We don’t feel bad about [pulling the ‘Patriot Act’ episode in Saudi Arabia] at all.”
- Former Netflix CEO Reed Hastings
If Netflix doesn’t want to be a news org or fighters for human rights, that’s just dandy. But if they’re going to pretend to be with a given show, that particular show should be accurate and inclusive. Otherwise it’s unapologetic propaganda.
Didn’t they get bought by a big AI company right after the hack?
Nvidia
One of only 3 companies related to AI that is actually making money. Because they make the hardware, not vaporware.
Follow the money. Or investors in this case, as there’s no real money involved but lots of speculation of payoffs in the future.
Follow the money. Or investors in this case, as there’s no real money involved but lots of speculation of payoffs in the future.
There’s money on the Nvidia side, only because they make the hardware everyone is buying. They have an actual product. They’re then investing that money into propping up the companies that will fail, to then get more incoming revenue as those companies again increase their debt. That investment isn’t expected to actually increase in value in the end, at least not in the traditional sense. It’s intended as a short term instrument to make the bubble as large as possible now for profitability.
They’re not taking out massive loans to buy hardware and build datacenters with no revenue falling into debt so deep it reaches the center of the Earth. They’re not the ones that will be holding the bag at the end when it all comes crashing down. Their revenue will tank alongside the collapse of course, but they’re not in the negatives. They’re net positive about $350 Billion. The only other companies with them are AMD and the RAM manufacturers, again all hardware manufacturers with real products that can’t be easily replicated or replaced quickly and will still be necessary after the collapse even when production slows again.
The documentary makes a lot about the communication between the agents on the notice board. One of the talking heads did point out the conversations are the way they are because they are trained on human chat and discussion.
I haven’t seen it, but I thought the agents communicating via the artifact folders was the most fascinating thing about the whole ordeal by a landslide.
Boy, the word “doomer” sure is loved as some putdown. It’s used when people talk about the climate future… “you’re such a doomer”. Yet it keeps changing.
He’s right on the anthropomorphism problem, but that’s human nature. We do it with everything. We should try to avoid it with AI because he’s right, it’s not someone, but just technology. However, him using that as an excuse that it can’t do harm as “just tech systems” goes along with the doomer line. He’s dead wrong about that, it’s doing a lot of harm, AND can have actions that, while not sentiently driven, are not predictable and are perfectly in line with a non-aligned system that we thought would do X, but ended up doing Y, Z and Omega. Partially because we made human mistakes and left doors open, but not solely for that.
This is the opposite of “doomerism”, it’s the dog with the coffee saying it’s fine. Which ought to be a big red flag.
On a long enough timeline, everything is a paperclip.
Maybe the real friends were the paperclips we made along the way.
