Mailing lists are great when your solution to low effort. Spam reports is to ignore them till they go away because people are generally lazy. Sadly falls apart when the barrier to entry for making a report has fallen through the floor.
Mailing lists are a really shitty way to do things if you need to actually deal with complex management problems. Like the one at hand.
Cuz they fall apart the moment. You start getting large amounts of people acting in bad faith or even acting in good faith like total idiots.
The problem with replacing e-mail is that e-mail works well enough.
Other hypothetically “superior” replacements come and go (Google Wave, Yammer, Jive) - some are sticking around in limited scopes (Slack / Teams) - but none have displaced e-mail completely. You always have to ask: “Are you on Teams/Facebook/X?” some people are, some people aren’t. Just about everyone at least has e-mail access, and uses it to some degree or another - if nothing else to verify identity for accounts on other services.
Well they worked fine until AI flooded the system. Any hypothetical system would still have that much traffic and be very hard to manage processing all that information on a human level.
No, they’ve fallen apart in the past too when there’s a wave of overzealous idiots. It’s just in the past you could ignore the problem and it would go away naturally because humans are generally speaking lazy and aren’t going to keep it up long-term.
The only thing AI has done is made the barrier to entry drop through the floor. It is made an existing problem that is always been there more noticeable.
The problem is not caused by AI. It’s not caused by the people who use AI. They are THE problem.
What caused the problem is decades of ignoring the problem and never finding a solution to a problem. Everyone with 2 seconds to stop and think about it. Knows has been a problem.
If you leave a hole in the floor, you can’t be mad. When rats start crawling up through it. The rat is a problem but you ignoring to fix the obvious problem that you’ve known about is the reason it’s a problem.
As someone who has actually contributed to the linux kernel I think the kernel maintainers are doing a great job. Mailing lists work just fine.
Mailing lists are great when your solution to low effort. Spam reports is to ignore them till they go away because people are generally lazy. Sadly falls apart when the barrier to entry for making a report has fallen through the floor.
Mailing lists are a really shitty way to do things if you need to actually deal with complex management problems. Like the one at hand.
Cuz they fall apart the moment. You start getting large amounts of people acting in bad faith or even acting in good faith like total idiots.
Nobody said kernel maintainers aren’t doing a great job
Mailing lists work. Working fine would not be having these articles
I’m saying other hypothetical systems would work better
The problem with replacing e-mail is that e-mail works well enough.
Other hypothetically “superior” replacements come and go (Google Wave, Yammer, Jive) - some are sticking around in limited scopes (Slack / Teams) - but none have displaced e-mail completely. You always have to ask: “Are you on Teams/Facebook/X?” some people are, some people aren’t. Just about everyone at least has e-mail access, and uses it to some degree or another - if nothing else to verify identity for accounts on other services.
Well they worked fine until AI flooded the system. Any hypothetical system would still have that much traffic and be very hard to manage processing all that information on a human level.
No, they’ve fallen apart in the past too when there’s a wave of overzealous idiots. It’s just in the past you could ignore the problem and it would go away naturally because humans are generally speaking lazy and aren’t going to keep it up long-term.
The only thing AI has done is made the barrier to entry drop through the floor. It is made an existing problem that is always been there more noticeable.
The problem is not caused by AI. It’s not caused by the people who use AI. They are THE problem.
What caused the problem is decades of ignoring the problem and never finding a solution to a problem. Everyone with 2 seconds to stop and think about it. Knows has been a problem.
If you leave a hole in the floor, you can’t be mad. When rats start crawling up through it. The rat is a problem but you ignoring to fix the obvious problem that you’ve known about is the reason it’s a problem.