• Frigg [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Absolute coward shit that the very first thing you feel the need to do is denounce Iran given everything that’s going on

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        Just because the US and Israel have decided to be an axis of evil doesn’t mean that the Iranian government is all of the sudden good guys.

        The Iranian people are victims and all of this. They did try democracy and we bombed them for it. Their government is not run by good people and that is also our fault.

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          Abstract moralism is the luxury of those shielded by imperialism. To condemn Iran in a vacuum like you do, is liberal idealism. The material reality is a state under constant siege by U.S. capital and its Zionist proxy.

          While the Islamic Republic is problematic, its resistance objectively fractures imperialist hegemony. Orthodox Marxists offer critical support: we defend Iran’s sovereignty against sanctions and regime change as a blow against the imperial core, while maintaining political independence from their theocratic policies. We can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

          To ignore the principal contradiction (Imperialism vs. Oppressed Nation) is social-imperialism.

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          The US and Iran cannot both lose this war, those two things literally cannot be true at once. The US winning entails them gaining a vice grip on the entire Middle East and the total collapse of civil society in Iran. Iran would absolutely not come out of that with a progressive government, we would see the entire country splinter and fall into the hands of warlords.

          Iran winning entails the expulsion of the US military from much of the Middle East, and it severely degrades the empire’s ability to protect Israel and enable the extermination of the Palestinian people. It is extremely crystal clear that Iran winning is the best outcome for all of humanity.

          Also how the fuck did you even come to the conclusion that Iran fighting in this war is theologically motivated after the US started the war by murdering their head of state and hundreds of school children in an unprovoked attack during negotiations?

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      Except for the environment and also everyone wanting cheap GPUs and SSDs.

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          Making all that hardware is bad for the environment and blowing it up will simply require more wasteful manufacturing and will put even more pressure the prices.

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              Of course not. Are you being absurd for a specific reason? Both production and use are bad, won’t you agree?

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            The US and Israel can always stop the war by retreating. Until they do, every attack on American and Israeli assets is 100% justified.

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            They might decide the risk is too high and stop building. Not that they make rational decisions enough for us to know for sure but I think that’s the hope.

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              I sure hope so they stop. I’m just worried they will make some dumb decisions based on their own slop machine output.

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          I have not said that. All I’m saying is that destroying high end hardware is bad for the environment, because it will lead to more manufacturing. It is wasteful. Instead cut their power or something.

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            I feel like those are criticisms that should be leveled at the people who built the thing specifically designed to exterminate life on the planet by heating it up as fast as is physically possible with current technology.

            If a machine is destroying life, it would be nice to be able to reuse bits for farming or something but just stopping the extinction is sufficient.

            Execute all executives.

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          They have no significant profits anyway, but the loss of hardware will result in increase in supplier orders.