Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.

    • Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
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      First two months of 2026: The US kidnaps one country’s leader, murders another, and kills hundreds of civilians in two failed regime change attempts.

      Death to the burger empire.

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        The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives. I’m still not over Maduro’s kidnapping and how they pulled it off. It’s freakish.

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          These sorts of attacks is what the US military has been investing in capacity to complete for decades. This is why there has been an investment bleeding edge tech which costs insane amounts of money to develop.

        • A🔻atar of 🔻engeance@lemmy.ml
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          Kidnapping Maduro didn’t accomplish any of their stated objectives in Venezuela. It looks like the White House didn’t even confer with energy companies about the viability of expanding their oil production?! They flipped their script immediately afterwards and claimed they won. You’d have to be a doomer to believe it.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          Although, it’s worth noting that this was largely a stunt. The US did not have the ability to actually invade Venezuela or to topple the government.

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            It was indeed a stunt, keep in mind that the US spend trillions to maintain an army capable of invading other countries, it’s just not convenient for them to do so.

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          the military fully backed him thats why, not like donald planed it out, they did under his general order. that and kidnaping moduro hasn’t really changed the country much after hes gone.

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          The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives.

          US government spends more than a trillion dollar on war each year.

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      Can they really be a “threat” when they’re actively killing people all over the world?

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        No. Most of what Russia does on the world stage is good, it is one of the biggest supporters of many global south countries and one of the few remaining bulwarks preventing US imperialism from running completely roughshod over the global south. For example right now, see Cuba and how Russia is providing support and oil as the US tries to starve them of energy and starve them to death. You may have been taught Putler=Voldemort, but no, Russia at this point is acting largely as a force for good in the world.

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          I feel like its a goal of the MIC as it gives them a reason to exist. Use violence, terror, kill civilians to create more enemies and justify more military spending.

          Not a good long term strategy, but the orphan crushing machine still has people willing to operate it.

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            The US generally benefits from depopulating & undeveloping resource rich or strategically marginal areas for coercion, keeping costs down, denial purposes, or just to keeping value chains stable, but this risks blowing up the petrodollar system. I think they might actually be completely insane. What did WarClaude™ tell them?

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            You forgot the last bit, when we’ve fucked the whole world up escape to bunker.

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      Well they created isis last time they displayed their level of stupidity. This time… Super isis?

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      The Greatest Satan. Thanks for confirming, comrade. I don’t believe USA/Isntrael without confirmation from non-liars.

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        No probs, same. If it’s a “trump says” source, then it’s immediately sus and we need at least a confirmation from the other side.

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    Khamenei was the main reason Iran did not develop nuclear weapons up to now. With him gone, that becomes a much more likely scenario.

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    Whelp.

    He was 86. I don’t know to what extent he was still in charge. It may have been anywhere from still fully in charge to just a figurehead.

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      Of course, but it wouldn’t make sense to lie about this, either way he was a 86 year old, and I’m not going to pretend that the Iranian regime was a paragon of freedom.

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        That regime has been practicing for this very day for DECADES. They have plans B, C, D, E, F, and G on the books.

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          Hard to grab good examples in the current state of his Telegram/Twitter/etc. apart from the famous ones like “woman is a flower” and the ones about never ever being mean to your wife (man was a great strategist). This is the vibe though:

          I have some older articles saved regarding misconceptions about Iranians having the ISIS misogyny thing going on. Great examples in there. I will dig those up and ping you when I post them. Also should repost stuff like Booker Omole’s thoughts on their revolution.

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            Those are really sweet spirited. I wonder how he was IRL.

            Edit also thank you. Sorry. They made me want to cry.

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              They really are, when I checked out the discussion group for his official Telegram chat, the stuff people were posting surprised me because it was all flower-themed, intensely so. Pink and red petals everywhere. Of course currently it is very death to America but the aesthetic for that is on point as well:

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              Who knows. Lots of people who do bad things can be personable, it’s one of the many weird things about humans.

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                  More nukes are never good and the fact that rearming is on the table for most nations shows how awful the general state of international relations is. Obviously the biggest culprit for the state of affairs is the United State.

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    So the US has taken action against two heads of state in two months, and the rest of the world is not at all worried?

    I mean, if fair is fair, this should be a free-for-all, so I’d be all for Netanyahu, Bbukele and Putin going up in smoke next.

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        He has to at least answer for his pedophilia before he goes up in smoke. And besides, forget the smoke, I want to see him under the guillotine, his head framed as an example of What Not To Do.

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      They are worried, but most of them are maintaining tenuous comprador regimes where their ruling classes’ finances are firmly linked to the imperial core

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    Well war over now right? Trump said the goal was regime change. We’ll mission accomplished. Right?

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    Ya I kinda knew it, I don’t think Israel would risk the embarrassment of being wrong.

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    NBC and BBC both reporting this but they do not link to the source. So far I have not seen an Iranian source saying this.