And when we don’t he’ll just use AWS to make our PCs worse on the net than his cloud services?
It doesn’t take 3nm/2nm chips to make a great computer. The Switch 2 is has a Samsung 8nm SoC. Steam Deck is TSMC 7nm. A Steam Deck has a better processor than my Intel N150 NAS. We don’t need the strongest hardware for self hosting. Don’t need it for a good gaming experience. Someday we’ll get second hand server parts salvaged into home equipment. The PS5 had that jailbreak. That can someday be a useful Linux machine. Someday the Xbox Series. Someday there’ll be a wave of RISC-V SBC’s that are better than the most recent raspberry pi
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage SBC Single-Board Computer VNC Virtual Network Computing for remote desktop access VPN Virtual Private Network
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Starting to see the real motive behind the “AI hardware” hoarding.
What so you can spy on us and other shit you ghoulish fuck. Fuck you bezos
I’d rather have no PC than a cloud PC.
And I’m a computer scientist, so that’s saying something ! I’d sooner switch careers to lumberjack (lumberjane ? What’s the feminine ?) than have to work on that feudal nonsense.
LumberJackie
lumberjoline?
Oh god. In the future we’ll need open source resistance-like computer part manufacturing.
This is increasingly possible, I’ve seen people fab their own chips at home
They bought so many GPUs and RAM that will be worthless after the big bubble pop that they now need an alternative plan for that hardware. Brace yourselves to be sold virtual computers.
The funny part will be when citrix takes 70% of their profits for using stuff it’s had patented for decades
I thought he just bought shit for a dollar and sold it for two. That’s pretty common even though he took a big bite of the customer base due to right place/right time dynamics. Why does falling into a shit load of money all of a sudden make you think that you know best on how society should proceed. It’s not just Bezos. Every single billionaire thinks that. Fuck 'em all.
Not quite, he doesn’t demean himself by ‘buying’ anything, he just built a place where other people can buy stuff for a dollar and sell it for two, and Jeff takes a cut.
Fuck you, Jeff !
I’ll make my own cloud, with blackjack and hookers and tarpits to poison your AI scrappers !
Technofeudalism. Great book by Yanis Varoufakis. He called it and it’s actually happening.
I still think it’s funny that he went from working at Valve as their Economist in residence studying digital markets to being the finance minister of Greece. I think the Valve job was more prestigious, especially since the rest of the EU was committed to fucking over Greece at the time.
Varoufakis explaining how Eurobonds and IMF were fucking over every European taxpayer in order to bail out banks that made risky bets with Greece was quite based.
I just wish he’d stick to economics, his geopolitics takes are quite bad
you’ll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud
He can hope a lot of things, but Stadia sure didn’t take.
I don’t think Stadia’s problem was the technology, though. It actually worked pretty well if you had a decent internet connection.
The issue, imo, was that nobody trusted in the longevity of the platform. Given Google’s track record, why would anyone want to buy in to something that would likely only last a few years? I know they ended up refunding people, but it’s not like they do that with every prodict they’ve cancelled.
This is the way with a lot of tech. Someone comes up with an ides, tries to build it and make it successful. When the money starts getting tight, they sell it to a larger company. Usually by the third round, it becomes successful.
why would anyone want to buy in to something that would likely only last a few years?
I ask people this every time they put time and money into a new live service game. I was referred to this community when I went down a self-hosted VPN rabbit hole for old LAN games whose multiplayer will never die.
Yeah that’s the thing, it’s especially hard to trust a newer service without any track record of longevity or a company with a proven track record of poor support. Even then, everything dies eventually. Companies will shut down servers due to funding/popularity issues (it doesn’t make sense to continue spending money and dev time on a game nobody is playing anymore) or to funnel players into a newer game. It would be great to see more live service or otherwise online games (e.g. MMOs) that are self-hostable.
If they’re self-hostable, they cease to be live services. And I’m just fine with that. I have no problem completely ignoring live services as a customer, but the problem I do have is how much research it takes to find out if a game I’m interested in is built to last or otherwise respects my values. Every Borderlands game has LAN multiplayer except for the GOTY edition of the first game, and even then, you can still acquire the regular edition of that game that still has it. Meanwhile, Hitman, a single player game, locks a lot of its best stuff behind an arbitrary server connection; the community has made pirate server executables to replace it, but it doesn’t mean that I want to reward IO Interactive with my dollars for that design decision.
I had a good connection back then (FTTH 100mbit, <5ms latency) and it worked like shit. There are WAY too many variables that can screw up this cloud gaming stuff, the whole concept is messed up.
I had a friend who was a true believer in Stadia, he even sold his gaming PC as he was gaming in Stadia full time.
When Stadia shut down he told me “at least I get to keep the controller”
Stadia was great for what it was. As a hardcore PC gamer who went more casual it was the answer to my gaming needs. Being able to play anywhere on any device was amazing.
They refunded all my purchases and I got to keep a bunch of free hardware I had gotten with Stadia bundles.
Yeah I loved stadia. I built a proxmox VM with sunshine to get my fix back
I worked in a Citrix environment for long enough to know this is just stupid.
I worked for a company that did this, thousands of users on Citrix.
Management didn’t believe us when we told them how slow it was, especially for data analysis, which was literally the job for many of us. It turned out management above a certain level were on a separate Citrix server, with relatively few users, and they weren’t doing heavy duty analyses like we were, so they had no issues at all. Middle management and below were on servers with too many users.
After a few years, they went back to “thick” clients. Laptops, finally. The virtual desktop setup was still available when I left, for a few specific things, but in general everyone used a laptop.
Fuck this bald piece of human waste. China will be making computers and they will be cheap!
