“90% of developed countries allow the indefinite reelection of their head of government, and no one bats an eye. But when a small, poor country like El Salvador tries to do the same, suddenly it’s the end of democracy.”
The difference is those governments usually have civil liberties etc that constrain the government. (The erosion of which is partly why trump is so concerning.)
Bukele has been arresting journalists and politicians he doesn’t like. If you are arrested you effectively have no recourse.
Yeah, and everyone was totally fine with Trump talkimg about a third because, as we know, term limits and democracy only matter in small, poor countries.
Oh wow, you missed the hundreds of think pieces freaking out about that threat?
May I introduce you to the concept of irony?
Ha, my bad! Sorry, too many children on this thread posting just absolute nonsense.
“the adults in the room” angle doesn’t even encompass you considering your defense for western “democracies”, fucking ageist.
Let me guess, GenZ/Y drawing a hard red line on and being vocal about genocide and western interventionism is attributed to their “youthful fervor” that will wane away in time too?
“the adults in the room” angle doesn’t even encompass you considering your defense for western “democracies”, fucking ageist.
It’s more that the take being espoused, that there’s no difference between a state that disappears journalists and citizens compared to a Western democracy is a childish take, and to argue it makes you seem a child.
It’s like when my friend’s adorable toddler asked why she can’t have ice cream “an a broccli” every meal (as she understands vegetables are important.) It’s a reasonable question for a child as we don’t expect her to understand all the nutrition etc that makes that a terrible plan. If she asks it, no worries. If a teenager or older asks, I immediately assume they’re kind of a child.
Arguing a place that locks up journalists and ‘suspected’ citizens is in the same realm as a western democracy with some laws you don’t like, is a childish position, that you expect from someone with little to no understanding of the role/importance of a judiciary, checks and balances between branches of government or the fourth branch. They likely know and understand little about the many regimes where this has happened and the horrific tragedies that ensue. And fair, not everyone has time to read or the fortune of knowing people who have come from those places. But it is still childishly ignorant.
Let me guess, GenZ/Y drawing a hard red line on and being vocal about genocide and western interventionism is attributed to their “youthful fervor” that will wane away in time too?
Huh, where are you getting this from?
More word-salad that basically amount to patronizing “it’s nuanced” ageism is all I’m reading here, fucking racist age-chauvinist.
The others in other threads have clearly expressed their points in great detail as to why Western regimes, currently committing genocide and adding multiple war crimes under their belt, are not “liberating”, “civilized” states upholding “civil liberties”. Applying jurisprudence to regime changes, land-grabbing, enslavement, disappearance, murders and torture and going through court circus to justify their actions doesn’t make them “civilized” or much better than their client states, European settler.
