She said that there’s been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just “trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from… communities.”
Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.
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Exactly. Basically "wahhhh this is making it harder for the kidnappers to kidnap people!! stop using the app they’re just trying to do their jobs pls feel sorry for them 😭 "
Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.
It’s so blatant as if theyre using an instruction manual or something 🤔
Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi
Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi
He’s a fucking JEWISH Nazi - which is the worst kind of self loathing Nazi.
He’d be the first in the showers when the real Nazis come to town.
He’s a pathetic loser.
Stephen Miller is exactly a Nazi
“Just following orders…”
Unjust, following orders
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.
Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.
There are easier ways to get that data without having to trick people into downloading an app. Trump has palantir and Israel in his pocket. He already knows where they all are. The app just lets us all know where they are.
Trump doesn’t like playing a fair game because he can’t win those.
While you’re right to be skeptical, if they just wanted to collect data they would have an Android version. And their stated reason for not supporting it, is that push notifications on Android would require them to at store device-IDs, which they want to avoid for privacy reasons and being vulnerable to subpoenas.
The devs don’t really seem to have a clue about smartphone.
https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2rGlad others have pointed this out. Their “reasons” for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.
I think he thinks HE had to store the information, and if he isn’t the one storing it, it’s anonymous.
Except, on Android, you can also do it where only google stores the information and he doesn’t have to store any. And there are no user name or passwords or accounts involved to listen to specific channels like he claims.
You can collect this information, and you’d be able to write a more custom push service, but it isn’t needed at all, but Google and Apple will always know who is getting the messages.
…iOS forces uses Apple services including getting apps through Apple…
Can’t speak to the rest of the claims, but Android practically does too. If one has to sideload an app, you’ve lost 99% of users, if not more.
It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/
It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.
The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they’re saying is true about stock OEM android though.
That’s a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.
On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn’t easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can’t. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there’s no exclusivity.
You got that “tracked to their identity” opposite around. The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets “found” the data about the user/owner is an open book.
This is not one of the claims made by the ICEBlock developers; their claims are only to do with notifications.
If you want to claim that a locked Android device is substantially easier for law enforcement to break in to than a locked iPhone, please cite up-to-date (from 2025) sources.
Thanks for the heads up.
Saw it wasn’t on F-Droid and was going to ask for source page (to get through Obtanium), but looks like they’re allergic to android and derivates. Appreciate you pointing to references.
Lol, called it.
Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it’s closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.
You don’t even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.
And how would they know that? That would mean push notifications would go via an Apple Server. Wich a) makes no sense b) can be masquerade so that the server does not know who talks to whom c) the meta information and the notification can be deleted timely
On the other hand, I guess most Android “low level” peer to peer apps go via FireBase?
All push notifications go through APNS on apple. That’s Apple Push Notifications Service.
APNS requires the device to authenticate with it and can uniquely identify the device by an id. Its how it sends messages to devices.
Firebase cloud messaging acts the same way for true push notifications.
You don’t need to audit a device using APNS or FCM on Android to know that it is not anonymous.
Did anyone else notice that you couldn’t use this on an Android device because it it may put the people who use it at risk?For shame AndroidDeveloper may not actually understand how phones work
“He’s giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are,” Bondi said. “…we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that’s not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country.”’
Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it’s not constitutionally protected to say to someone “hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?” Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn’t matter and laws are made up now, and they’re just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They’re just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.
It is definitely not constitutional protected free speech. Because constitution has nothing to say in this matter. On the other hand there is no law restricting such speech either. Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution, would be tricky however.
Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution…
The part that says…
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assem- ble, and to petition the Government for a re- dress of grievances.
Make a law against the part that says not to make a law against it?
I mean, it’s idiotic and on message for Trump.
Send & Receive alerts about ICE raids and activity in your area. Stop ICE Alerts Network works with technology already built into your phone without the need to download an app.
This is the way.
You’ve still got to connect to their servers and they can monitor who connects to what.
I wouldn’t trust it without a non-US based VPN. We should assume anything in the US is compromised by the fed, and that they are watching.
We need a federated equivalent. Anything centralized can be stopped.
Federation is an overly complicated solution it’s not required. It also wouldn’t actually help, they can still take it off the app store there’d be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.
The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There’s no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that’s a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that’s probably unnecessary
Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius … how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?
I can’t tell if you’re serious or not.
If the internet is down then I don’t have access to the app store. Also if the internet’s down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.
At the very least I hope it’s hosted by someone outside the US so it’s out of reach to the authorities.
For all we know the app might just be a honeypot itself
This is a genuine concern that we should recognize.
I’m about 99% confident it isn’t, but considering it is the kind of caution we should all be exercising these days.
- Is it open source? (No)
- Is it’s publishing and build pipeline open? (No)
- Can anyone audit it? (No)
- Does the author make unreliable claims of privacy? (Yes)
- Does the author detail how data privacy and security is implemented? (No)
It’s probably not a honeypot. But it’s also likely to be negligent enough in implementation that it might as well be.
That’s always worth considering. A phone app doesn’t take a big operating budget to launch and maintain. Especially for state-actors.
Clearly it’s just safety minded individuals acquiring it. This app helps keep communities safe from unmarked armored vehicles filled with masked criminal cop impersonators.
Good. I hope they’re terrified. The same as their victims
Expected this after recent news articles criticizing it for hurting ICE officers.
Yeah, but I think it’s also because Republicans are downloading it and using it to spread fake ice raid claims, to confuse. So, I don’t think the numbers are necessarily because people hate ice or whatever.
Guess we’ll see.
Is it only available in the US App Store? I can imagine that some people who could make good use of it don’t have a US Apple ID.
