• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    this reminds me of the advice for people who win the lottery

    make an anonymous LLC company to accept your win, so you can stay incognito

    pay a lawyer and an accountant so you can continue to stay incognito and only tell your trusted friends and family about your good fortune

    so crazy assholes don’t come for you or them

    I guess this now applies to making it big in crypto money

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      8 months ago

      That some messed up US thing i never understood. Here in germany you are anonymous by default when you win. at most it is published from what state the winner was.

      That someone’s name and even address is published is so completely unimaginably absurd to me. makes no sense whatsoever.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 months ago

        There’s actually extremely strong logic behind publishing the winner. It’s a whole hell of a lot harder to rig when your name is everywhere when you win.

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          It’s a whole hell of a lot harder to rig when your name is everywhere when you win.

          This also sounds like a uniquely US problem. Not that there aren’t scammers everywhere, but it feels like it would be more prevalent in the US.

          • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            8 months ago

            … That’s an absolute wild and hella nationalistic take. There’s nothing even slightly uniquely Americans about embezzlement and theft-- Europe has been doing that for thousands of years before America even existed

            • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              I did acknowledge that it’s not exclusive to the US. And I didn’t say “it is”, I said “it feels like”.

              FTX, Theranos, Fyre Festival, Enron, Bernie Madoff, Logan Paul’s CrytoZoo, Charles Ponzi (the OG Ponzi scammer), etc.

              While scams exist everywhere, the US seems specially suited to embolden people to run scams. At least high profile ones.

  • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    8 months ago

    As much as I dislike crypto, this is not a crypto fail story, even though the article paints it like that a few times (or at least the tone implies).

    No one should have their finger servered because of other people’s greediness.

    These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.

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      8 months ago

      Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.

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      The death penalty doesn’t work at all because the state serves capital (among other reasons). The worst offenders are never punished.

      If you want the death penalty, there are far worse crimes than this. Just look at the genocide of Palestinians. Those murderers are invited to dinner with presidents.

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      8 months ago

      While I do recognise the colloquial and unserious tone of your argument, I have to disagree wholeheartedly: Human right are universal.

      • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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        8 months ago

        I mean, it’s hard. I’m not really against death penalty on its own, I think there are crimes which deserve exactly that. My issue with death penalty is how easy it is to misuse. So in a theoretical world where some perfect entity with no ability to make mistakes decides who gets it, I’m 100% in favour. In the real world, not so much.

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          8 months ago

          As long as we have the option to separate and isolate, nobody deserves to be killed. The death penalty is nothing more than formalised murder, however one chooses to look at it.

          • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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            8 months ago

            Sure, you can call it that and yeah, it might make some people think more before being in favour of it just because it doesn’t sound as bad.

            But I disagree with the first part, plenty deserve to be killed, always had and always will.

            In theory death penalty is exactly that - people justly decide that someone harms society too much and they don’t want that person in society.

            (again, note that I don’t think it should be implemented in real world because of how easily corruptible people are)

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              No. Murder is murder. There is no rationalising one’s way around it. There is no acceptable context for killing someone other than immediate self-defence, which is not the case when discussing things in terms of justice systems.

              Killing is never justice.

    • VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      8 months ago

      Death Penalty has no justification. Expand your mind past the recitivist police state mentality before you get us all killed starting with the most marginalized kthx and byyeeeee

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        8 months ago

        So you don’t think serial child rapists should be put to death?

        Interesting.

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      8 months ago

      These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.

      I do understand how you feel about that and I do kinda feel the same, BUT … you always have to assure that every last person has rights and gets acceptable treatment, even the ones who seemingly have no soul. Because if there’s ever a category of people without rights, any government would have an easy way to get rid of eveyone critizing them.

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        8 months ago

        Thats bullshit. Not all people deserve to be treated as people. Some are just garbage. That includes serial killers and ones mentioned in this article

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          And then you critize the government, get a sham trial and are marked for your crime as some kind of “garbage person” without rights. Afterwards, execution or locking away and maybe throw in some torture for the fun of it. This is reality already. It just hasn’t been done to you.

          You can feel about it however you want, I may even feel the same with some people, but as an adult, we have to use logic.

          The point is, there must never be an official group of people without rights you can just “get rid of” im some way. This limit is not for the punished, it exists to shield the innocent.

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        8 months ago

        There’s this one Nazi CEO that I hope we can agree either has no soul or at least one that we could do without. Yet we’re not killing him.

        Killing people is wrong and while there may be factors that make it seem more warranted, nothing will ever make it right.

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      8 months ago

      I dont like death penalty for the people who would deserve it because it lets them off too easy. Why should they be allowed to leave this hell in easy way while we have to remain.

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        8 months ago

        Isn’t being jailed forever also an “easy way out”? I’m sure there are people on this planet who are not in jail, but, because of too little money or other circumstances, have less and get treated worse than people in jail.

        Also, if being alive really is hell to you, you might want to do something about this.

        [edit]

        It seems this has been unclear. By “do something about this” I meant speaking about the problem or therapy or the like. Yes, life sucks some times, but if being alive is hell for you, you got a problem to fix.