@bekkaboo@girlcock.club Linux itself is heavily using AI models. Therefore, every Linux distribution moving to recent kernel versions is heavily built on top of using AI models. Creating a Linux distribution not heavily using it would require a hard fork of the Linux kernel and many other projects.
It's unclear what would be accomplished by banning AI for a tiny portion of the code while continuing to use Linux, AOSP, Chromium and hundreds of other projects heavily using it. We'd still be benefiting from it.
GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.
We do not understand where you’re coming from or why you’re so incredibly angry with us. It’s not justified and does not make sense.
if you are using a computer or phone, you are running AI-generated code. it is rather dire. the best you can do is limit your use of this fashtech in other areas.
A large number of people are using it as an opportunity to promote using operating systems which are the direct opposite of hardened and are much more heavily using AI models including for a lot of code generation.
LineageOS is certainly using it. CalyxOS, /e/ and iodéOS are based on it. CalyxOS is developed by LineageOS core developers.
It’s not infighting (oh well, if you want to see that, check any other post from GOS when they talk about privacy and security of other Android distros…). They quite legitimately ask why GOS using AI to detect vulnerabilites has triggered such a shit-storm while every other distro accept LLM generated code and no one seems to care.
Since LLMs are essentially built from code, I have an easier time believing that coders can get a benefit, especially at the Individual level, within the frame of having a coding background and being able to audit, directly, the code that the machine spits out. But basically everything else happening with, and surrounding, these fucking things is atrocious.
The objections of many are not focused on whether or not it is useful, they are about whether or not it is ethical to use.
Many object to the fact that it was trained on the works of others with no renumeration or accreditation. Others have objections to its resource efficiency compared with traditional methods. Still others have concerns about the long-term health of codebases written with it. I’m sure quite a few have all three objections.
These are all concerns that will need to be overcome before this technology will stop being controversial and many refuse to touch it or anything it has touched.
Well, I hardly use my PC and was just forced to get one for a job to do email bullshit, so in my day to day, yes. And Ive been exploring getting a basic ass flipphone and a atlas instead of relying on googles shit GPS system, I already use OSM instead but still.
Cool well I’ll keep using Lineage until they become massive piles of steaming crap as well.
Fuck AI and all you silicon ball lickers.
@BrickEater unfortunately LineageOS does allow AI contributions: https://github.com/LineageOS/charter/blob/main/ai-coding-assistants.md
if you are using a computer or phone, you are running AI-generated code. it is rather dire. the best you can do is limit your use of this fashtech in other areas.
@General_Effort
FUCK. I can’t have fucking shit in this goddamn world.
You can, but it will always be touched by AI.
And if you can’t handle that, your best bet is to go live in the woods.
Why are you okay with that? I feel psychotic, like it disgusts me that this is just OK with people.
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117243278117231129
Fan-fucking-tastic. Everything I love is ruined by slop users.
Oh, so now they’re also infighting like hell on “holier than thou” grounds. Cool.
It’s not infighting (oh well, if you want to see that, check any other post from GOS when they talk about privacy and security of other Android distros…). They quite legitimately ask why GOS using AI to detect vulnerabilites has triggered such a shit-storm while every other distro accept LLM generated code and no one seems to care.
Since LLMs are essentially built from code, I have an easier time believing that coders can get a benefit, especially at the Individual level, within the frame of having a coding background and being able to audit, directly, the code that the machine spits out. But basically everything else happening with, and surrounding, these fucking things is atrocious.
The objections of many are not focused on whether or not it is useful, they are about whether or not it is ethical to use.
Many object to the fact that it was trained on the works of others with no renumeration or accreditation. Others have objections to its resource efficiency compared with traditional methods. Still others have concerns about the long-term health of codebases written with it. I’m sure quite a few have all three objections.
These are all concerns that will need to be overcome before this technology will stop being controversial and many refuse to touch it or anything it has touched.
I feel ya dude
just curious, are you planning to stop using technology altogether, once there’s nowhere else to migrate to?
I mean, I assume you have thrown away your PC already, since all 3 major OSes use AI in their development
You slop garglers really are wonderful people.
Also, didn’t Debian declare that AI generated code is not compliant with their policies?Also also: organic foods, human-powered bicycles, acoustic music, manual transmissions, etc
who’s “we”? I don’t happen to write any OSes myself, but yeah, tribalism is a powerful thing.
it doesn’t matter what debian declared, the kernel is what matters. but also no, they didn’t https://www.theverge.com/tech/986789/linux-debian-generative-ai-policy
An AI supporter would link The Verge instead of the source itself. 😒
You’re right, they allowed AI generated code.
https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002#texte
I was posting from mobile, so I linked the page that’s readable on mobile, unlike the source ;)
But yeah, no, sure, keep seething
I read the source on mobile.
Maybe you’re too used to having ChatGPT summarize things
Well, I hardly use my PC and was just forced to get one for a job to do email bullshit, so in my day to day, yes. And Ive been exploring getting a basic ass flipphone and a atlas instead of relying on googles shit GPS system, I already use OSM instead but still.
I would sooner migrate to templeOS than use slopOS in gunna be real. There is always an archived iso
good luck
No they don’t.
Windows clearly does. Linux kernel does. MacOS has built-in AI features and XCode has support for AI agents, so one would assume they also use it in development. Do you have some other 3 major OSes I don’t know about? Are you on FreeBSD? Cause uhhh https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-ai-assisted-vulnerability-discovery-project-launch/
Linux, Windows, and MacOS devs definitely do use LLMs to help with coding.
In your defense NetBSD does not, but I would not consider NetBSD to be one of the big 3.