• Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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    2 days ago

    I’ve never even heard it beyond his tweets. Like not a single soul has mentioned it IRL

    No offense (genuinely) but what every day americans think or say to each other about their government doesn’t stop them from doing awful things both domestically and internationally.

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      So it’s Americans’ fault for not overthrowing the most powerful empire on earth yet, got it. Great take. Except your government probably sucks too, maybe you should overthrow that one then talk shit.

      Fucking kids these days, no one wants to throw their life away on a half baked revolution anymore! /s

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        So it’s Americans’ fault for not overthrowing the most powerful empire on earth yet, got it.

        Yes.

        Except your government probably sucks too, maybe you should overthrow that one then talk shit.

        Currently only one country wants to annex Canada. But leave it to USAmericans to assume their passivity is universal.

        Fucking kids these days, no one wants to throw their life away on a half baked revolution anymore! /s

        The only two options, sitting on your hands or grabbing an AK and trying to storm the Capitol.

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        I don’t see why we shouldn’t make yankees feel bad about not overthrowing their government.

        It might motivate them to actually do something.

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          How do you envision that playing out? I don’t think you have thought through what it takes to overthrow a government, let alone the US, then what would happen afterwards.

          If you wished for that on a monkey paw, you would see what I mean here, without organization, there firstly will be no revolution at this time.

          Secondly, at all times without that organization and some muscle and leadership and the rest, we would be subjugated by groups just as bad if not worse.

          So, the thing to encourage, is organization. Say a federated community of innumerable groups organized on what they agree on that can cooperate on what they agree on. One with clear sets of rules fairly enforced with appeals for violations that can be decided ultimately by a jury of that group’s users.

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            2 days ago

            The way to encourage organization is by making yankees feel like they need to be doing something right now, or else they’ll just wait at home for the next election.

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            We can still show what your lot is lacking then you’ll know what to do after organizing. Because, I’m sorry, you’re the bad guys either by wittingness or weakness. And, LET’S BE REAL HERE, a lot of us outside the US have way worse than the aristocratic working class within the Imperial core. Stop removed and show some work on YOUR side. Or are you waiting for the Chinese and the Russians reach Manhattan? Do you know what would happen next?

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              I reject your logic my friend. You and almost everyone else could be condemned with this same logic.

              Not throwing your life away uselessly is not a bad quality. Going off half cocked actually would do far far more harm than good, as the government would get a chance to proscribe all the groups opposing it they claim are part of whatever conspiracy.

              Aristocratic working class? In the US? What are you nuts? Our rulers are billionaires and their lackeys, administrated by lawyers. Lawyers are not the working class, they are parasites by the way.