Uhh… did they just figure this out now? Because the other 8+ billion of us have known this for years, and have been screaming about how this is a really terrible thing. The entire population of earth has never been in agreement about anything before and we’ve never ever been corrected about anything before, but here we are.
In fact, a great many of us have tried to stop it from happening in the first place, but every single last one of our leaders were too busy rolling around in billionaire cash to give a fuck, and, well, here we are.
Where was the UN human rights chief then? Probably at some fancy dinner hosted by a Elon Musk, or one of his compatriots. or on some mega yacht, getting 1000 blowjobs per second paid for by billionaires. Or, very likely, on Epstein Island fucking children paid for by billionaires.
Starting to see a pattern here?
If everyone on earth worth more than $5 million were suddenly killed and all their money/assets were redistributed to the public, you know what would happen?
THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE
And until then, happens, humanity will destroy itself. But when it does, we have a bright future ahead of us.
Because the other 8+ billion of us have known this for years, and have been screaming about how this is a really terrible thing.
I’d wager it’s significantly less than even one billion people who know and do anything like that.
Uhh… did they just figure this out now?
All the other salient points aside, I think this is an example of the interaction between the bubble effect (we here all know it, but it’s hard to ascertain just how widespread that awareness is outside this corner of the net) and the misunderstanding of the way such big organs function.
The latter is particularly made worse by how Trump (and others, but I’m not gonna write a whole list) has desensitised us to the scandalous nature of “person with some measure of authority makes throwaway comments”.
Big organisations and institutions being “slow” to work or comment such things is an unfortunate side-effect of the fact that they’re supposed to put some diligence into their statements. There’s probably a nice pile of reports and arguments that have been written, reviewed, refined, discarded, assembled, cross-referenced to support such a statement with not just evidence for that fact, but also for the negative implications that make it a human rights problem. They probably figured it out a while ago, but had to build a case before going public with their results.
Even if we assume the best intentions, the Chief couldn’t responsibly “guess” or offer a forecast of where this was gonna go, because his job is to report on facts, not on probabilities*, and those facts have to be established, while all the other work of those organs also is still goiny on. In that light, his statement is tantamount to saying “those doomsayers were right and you should have listened”.
Courts have the same issue: you and I and everyone else may know that some person is guilty, but due process demands that they be properly tried and have their guilt proven to a certain standard. That’s slow. It’s painful to watch. But even in the best circumstances, doing things properly takes time, and doing them quickly risks error.
All of that said, you’re probably right that he wasn’t in a rush to confirm that, just as courts tend to drag their feet. Corruption makes that issue of delay worse.
* Expressing concerns about potential issues is a little more complex, since it uses extant and studied patterns to show the danger of where a partial match might go, but there was hardly much precedent for a rushing tide of slop pouring into so many households at once to compare to until patterns started emerging that could be observed and matched and eventually coalesce into certainty.
If I were a ferengi, I would be loving this whole setup.
If.
I vote for this guy for president for two reasons.
- This guy gets it
And 2) Look at my alternatives. We all know trump is going to be the 2028 candidate despite that not being legal. I’m at a point where I don’t even think he’s going to use corruption to change the law. I think he’s just going to run, and nobody will do anything to stop it. As far as the democrats go, I don’t know who they’ll run, but I know they’ll be worthless. Probably Tim Walz or some shit.
So yeah, I got nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting for this random guy who may not even be eligable to run for president due to not being American. But hey, laws won’t exactly be the top priority in the 2028 election anyways.
and nobody will do anything to stop it
Many are trying, though options are severely limited by the fact that, two years ago, the entire US government was gift-wrapped and handed to fascists by a bunch of democrats who figured “why bother?”
I don’t know who they’ll run, but I know they’ll be worthless
It sounds like you think there won’t be presidential primaries. Or perhaps you think you aren’t allowed to vote in them? You are. And what’s more, since participation is quite low historically your vote likely has quite a bit more influence in the primary than in the general election.
I am drunk and stoned, and even I damn well know that is some crazy shit you just said
Preface:
Sorry for the wall of text.
It’s all just drunken rants, and I doubt any of it is meaningful.
If everyone on earth worth more than $5 million were suddenly killed and all their money/assets were redistributed to the public, you know what would happen?
THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE
Yes. Unfortunately such measures are blocked by both science and functional governments.
There is no way to place such stringent limits on anything. “Owning more than 2 dildos” is a silly law, because anything is a dildo if you are brave enough.
“Owning more that 5m is assets means you get killed” is a silly law, because a massive financial upheaval (suddenly having your dildo collection massively appreciate is value) would mean so many people killed or having to be revived (ie, when your £10m collection of dildos suddenly is valued at £2m… Very distressing).I think it’s more of a “you have won capitalism” tax.
10m per person + 2m per child. Or something like that.
That’s the cap. Beyond that is taxed at 99%.
Earn 100million? You keep 1 million.
Higher taxes on extra homes and actual luxury goods and services (private jets etc). Have an EAT: Essentials Added Tax of 0% (or remove taxes on things like tampons, deodorant, toothpaste & brushes, body soap & shampoos, toilet paper, condoms… Things that promote hygiene). Have a SAT (survival added tax) of like 5% on fresh veg, bread, meat, eggs and milk (things required to live). And have VAT (value added tax) of like 10% on things that ADD VALUE to the essential survival things (bread, ready meals, cookies etc). Then have an LAT (luxury added tax) of 20% on fancy things. And have an FAT (fatality added tax) of 50% on things like cigarettes, alcohol, fast food, sugar, processed foods… All the modern bullshit. Then an EAT (existential-threat added tax) for things like petrol, diesel, natural gas, methane, ethane etc.did they just figure this out now? Because the other 8+ billion of us have known this for years, and have been screaming about how this is a really terrible thing. The entire population of earth has never been in agreement about anything before
Well, it takes actual studies and scientific proof to enact meaningful change.
While the billionaires can just pay for that change via lobbying.
Politicians are not specialists on anything. So they rely on specialist. And billionaires can serve up “specialists” in the right place at the right time to get their own opinion valued more than common sense and general opinion.
Billionaires can own entire “impartial councils”, they can (do?) own the news cycle, they can saturate media with their opinion to the point that “scientists confirm Y, but public opinion goes against Y”.
See the whole climate change denial and greenwashing, I think there is the same going on with “open source” Vs actual open source, the whole “AI is the future, AGI is here, don’t lose the AI war” bullshit. Next up will be water, we are getting to the point where it’s all about water (but probably not for citizens).And yet, the requirements to refute all the bullshit require SO much more work and investment than is required to generate the bullshit.
I don’t know what the solution is. When companies are “worth” more than countries, there is no way a country can compete. Even sectors of a country (IE “local councils”).
They just get bought out. And all these bought-and-paid-for (previously) trusted sources become untrustworthy, but the evidence lags the actions making them untrustworthy… Of course society slowly gets dragged down to the worst of it.Maybe that’s the takeaway:
Nobody can predict everything. So the established and trustworthy things get corrupted faster than the corruption can be revealed in an indisputable way.
There is no way to prevent the corruption, it can’t be predicted.OK, I definitely skipped your well of text (no offense) because I’m also very drunk and high. I also understand your point without needing to have it explained to me. That $5 million limit was absurdly low. Let’s raise it to $1 billion in personal assets.
Does the entire calculus of your position change significantly at that point?
Of course, I understand that it would require a massive structural restructuring of the entirety of society that would take decades upon decades. But a little bit of revolution, or a lot, is kind of the point here.
Is it not?
I just want to say I’m drunk and high and read neither of your messages beyond the first bit. I’m sure it was a deep and meaningful exchange though.
Uuhh… cheers?
🥃
Hello drunk and high, I am dad.
Now if the people with the brains would just revolt and fuck up all the network, source code, applications, etc, they will have nothing.
I think this is our great filter … the filter that won’t allow us to explore the universe beyond our planet. We’ll send up probes and robots into space but we’ll be too busy fighting the handful of men down here who want to try to rule the planet. And those handful of men will keep our world as miserable as possible in order to keep them wealthy and as powerful as possible. Once that group of men dies off, another group of men will take their place endlessly. And it will be that perpetual small group of men that will keep us confined to our current state of evolution and keep us all down on this planet.
As Carl Sagan put it in ‘A Pale Blue Dot’ …
“The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.”
Space is not meant for humanity, anyways.
We need to focus on ourselves and send the robots to space.
We’re all just crabs in a bucket
It’s time to make extreme sacrifices.
It seems like this is above everything. Above nation, and above race. It’s humanity vs them.
The male-presenting community, when in charge of the executive branch (and most of the legislative and judicial, tbf), has failed in so many aspects that I see no issue with the words “every” and “all” being used.
The rest of the world genuinely deserves better.
Nothing will get better until we start executing billionaires.
Nah.
The real move is con icting them for the theft and pain and suffering they caused necessary to accumulate that much wealth. Them and all the people that facilitated it, which still isn’t that many people.
Seize all their wealth, and due to the scale of people they hurt accumulating that wealth, it’s all gonna be life sentences.
If it’s over in an instant the lesson is forgotten quickly.
Throw them in gen pop federal prison with no resources to protect them, and let them rot. That’s a bigger deterrent, and literally the only time sentencing deters crimes is when the criminal already has enough they don’t need to steal.
We need to make it so no millionaire would ever dream of stepping into a grey area, and when they do, we make an example.
If your plan does not include killing ALL billionaires then I’m not interested. We can do the sensible thing right after, but first we must water the earth.
The trouble is that the legal system is required to enforce any of that, and the billionaires have unlimited legal resources; politicians need to enact those laws, and their influence and support can be bought.
To have hope of it suceeding there would need to be overwhelming popular support. And while most people alive know that what’s currently happening in the world needs to change - many disagree on what that change should look like (because they’re misinformed or ignorant). It might take decades to change their minds, and the billionaires own the media…
If it’s over in an instant the lesson is forgotten quickly.
100%, on a historical, societal level.
Trouble is presently there’s no accountability for them, zero they can’t buy their way out of. They think they’re untouchable, and they’re honestly not wrong.
I think they need to be touched. A lot. And hard.
Given the urgency, I don’t much care about the mode or method.
Sometimes I forget how much learned helplessness resulted form 30 years of neoliberalism…
Every “reason” you just gave, is an excuse popularized by neoliberals.
Like, you understand for 99.99999999% of human history, we managed to stop people from becoming billionaires with almost zero effort, right?
Some shit that started in the 1990s, can be undone
It’s not fucking permanent just because you were likely born after it’s started.
Not to mention:
I think they need to be touched
Your option is what they spend money on. They have security and actual bunkers.
None of what your saying makes any logical or rational sense. You’re upset. Which is cool
But people are talking about how to really fix it while you keep interrupting to jack off about how much you want to kill people for being “them”.
Easy, call down there, Sherlock.
So your saying just a handful of assholes need to die?
Nah, all billionaires. There’s way more of those
Yeah, but has anyone asked grok about this yet?
Wow only A.I? I ”hope”I get to watch the world burn.
Are they single?
I assume they have wives that were trafficked and groomed from birth to be trophy wives.
