• A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    15 hours ago

    I was going to dismiss this because

    • we know already
    • looking at the rest of the world through US-shaded glasses

    but this quote rocks:

    Blaming GDPR for the cookie banner is like blaming the health inspector for the roaches. The banner is deliberate vandalism, a dark pattern engineered to exhaust you before you can learn anything about the surveillance apparatus humming behind the “OK.”

    Cookie banners are malicious compliance*.

    What follows is just as quote-worthy, e.g.:

    On May 25th, 2018, GDPR took effect to the sound of American commentary, the way fireworks take effect to the sound of dogs.

    * edit: he says that himself later. I like this guy.

    • bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org
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      13 hours ago

      I find it weird how many people actually blame GDPR for cookie banners. I mean, yes. I think they should have probably written the law a little bit better to avoid this situation. But malicious compliance is a thing in many laws.

      I also hate how many websites are trying to blackmail me now with “pay or we use your data”

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      12 hours ago

      Cookie banners have lead me to disposable tabs. On my phone everything is opened by default in a Firefox private tab or Firefox focus. Then it gets scrapped. If it’s something I care to keep open, then I’ll open it in a regular tab. Fuck these garbage companies ruining the internet.

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        9 hours ago

        I love the passive aggressive ones that say “we love our European visitors” only to block all access to the site because they’re not allowed to sell our data.

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      11 hours ago

      Consent-O-Matic addon for Firefox makes it very easy. Its not perfect, but it works so well that every time it doesnt work, I sort of stare at the screen, waiting for it to do its thing, for a good 10-15 seconds, before snapping out of it and realising I need to do something.

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        11 hours ago

        Same. “What is this thing I am presented with, this is not the content I came here for? … Oh right, cookies.”

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          I installed that thing on my dad’s laptop. 8 months later he calls me up and says that theres some weird window asking him to accept something. I thought it was something worse, so put on my shoes and walked over to his place, opened the laptop and… it was a cookie prompt lol.

          In his defense, it was in English and he doesnt really understand English very well. But goes to show how great consent-o-matic works, heh.

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    I hate cookie banners because UX keep going “We keep getting holes in our analytics!” and blaming me for it. I understand the whole “We want to see at what point people are dropping out of the login process so we can make it easier for them to complete the journey” but it’s still fucking annoying when they complain about analytics drops when our users are naturally very privacy focused and I can’t control whether they deny cookies or not!

    There might be ways of tracking without using cookies, but I’m apparently not allowed to use those because the GA is controlled by someone other than me.

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      6 hours ago

      GDPR is a bit more than cookies banners… it gives rights to European like deletion of one’s data, right to get a copy of one’s data, portability to some extent and a lot of transparency about what processing is happening. And if one of our DPA is taking an interest in a particular sus processing they can forbid it altogether which all companies fear much more than fines. It’s really a beautiful piece of regulation. And I’m not saying only because I make part of my living out of it :)

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      Then I assume the cookie UX has separate toggles for local analytics vs analytics through Google, et. al.?

      That way they can get the data they want without sharing it to any third parties, or through third party services?

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      9 hours ago

      IANAL but there should be no need to ask consent to know when users quit the signup process. You need to say that you use cookies, yes, but unless you process personally identifiable data there is no need for informed consent.

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        8 hours ago

        as a user I have, if it happens before clicking the accept button. even when there was no choice.

        I can count on one hand how many times I clicked the accept button.