• nyan@lemmy.cafe
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    14 hours ago
    1. Wrong country. We don’t do that up here. Overall, we find this results in fewer unnecessarily dead people.

    2. Let’s say he’d had a gun, and used it against the police. He would just have gotten hit with an additional charge that could have been anything from resisting arrest to first-degree murder, depending on how good a shot he was. So he’d still be in prison even after being proven innocent of the original charge. Real smart.

    • No Thanks@lemmy.4d2.org
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      13 hours ago

      i believe the implication is that when injustice is commonly met with this response, those seeking to exert force upon others do their due diligence

      versus the “only the state can do violence and we never make mistakes hurr hurr” that (ahem) they really want the global population to internalize

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        13 hours ago

        You can’t stop the state from committing violence with a handgun, for crying out loud. Or even with a million handguns. The state will always have better equipment than you, most of which doesn’t require anyone to get within handgun range if they don’t want to. Granted, big missiles make a tremendous mess and they’d rather not use them, but the possibility is always there.

        Expecting citizen violence to overthrow a modern government that’s dead set on preventing it is, to put it politely, unrealistic. Unless you can convince the military to take your side or at least bow out, removing the government’s ability to exert force, but you aren’t going to accomplish that by directing violence at the military.

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      Or maybe if you had the 2nd they wouldn’t be so quick to arrest the wrong guy ad actually did their fucking job and investigated… No no that to lofty of a concept in canada…

      The 2nd protects the 1st and you don’t have free speech.

      • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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        The US is currently having some concentration camps and ICE literally kidnapping people on the street and no 2nd amendment nut is doing shit.

        So shut the fuck up with your dumb rhetoric.

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        14 hours ago

        Yeah, no one is ever wrongfully arrested and convicted in the USA. You guys are famously standing up to tyranny, brave yankee.

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          We have the freedom of speech which as we all know States side went out with blackface trudeu in canada then used the emergency act (for the US thats literally Marshall Law) to quiet down protesters in Ottawa.

          Only time ever used, for honking horns. Then seized their bank accounts. So much freedom.

          Say what you will about us here but you guys really lost your spine.

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            13 hours ago

            Buddy, you live under a corrupt government that is robbing you blind. You have the opportunity to prove that your gun shopping hobby is not just consumer fetishism right now!

            But you won’t, of course. You might as well be collecting dildos.

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              LOL you are in a country of ccp shills. Tell me how you lost one of the best cell phone manufactures to chinese spies. 30 million people and you can’t find housing because its all foreign owned…

              I haven’t bought a gun in at least 7 years. Prolly cause I got all the ones I want (Others than a 686). But my dildo’s have value and use and you can’t have them up there.

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        13 hours ago

        Or, you know, you’d end up dead on your doorstep for trying to invoke your 2nd amendment to the fucking cops. That’s a good way to end up getting a Darwin award.

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        13 hours ago

        You do realist that “I am innocent, armed and will shoot if you try to arrest me” is possibly the worst conceivable way to avoid being unlawfully arrested, right?

        There is quite literally nothing you could do to make it more certain that you will be either killed or arrested than trying to shoot your way out of being wrongly arrested.

        I hope you also realise that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and has a long and proud history of arresting and/or executing the wrong people. Literally any other system than the one you’re advocating for is provably superior when it comes to preventing the wrong people from being arrested.