New Outlook takes 10 seconds to show an email after clicking a Windows 11 notification. Outlook Classic does it instantly.
To be the biggest and most hilarious thing abut Outlook on desktop is unified Inbox.
Mobile Outlook App? Yep. Old ass Mail App? Yep. Outlook: What’s unified Inbox precious?
The new Outlook has been a shit show since day 1. When they first released it it couldn’t load PSTs, it couldn’t use COM add ins, it didn’t link correctly with Teams. You couldn’t correctly add shared calendars. The list just keeps on going, and all the things it fell short on was all stuff that business users heavily relied on.
Granted some of them need to go, but it’s like they didn’t even pay attention to what was used.
I use Thunderbird for my stuff. I like it for personal email. Its good enough.
Both of my workplaces use Outlook, and it’s so cumbersome. Microsoft’s products do not work well on Linux/Firefox. It’s like they only test in Edge.
Tried to install and use Thunderbird the other day. Of course I need to ask an administrator to get permission to use Thunderbird as an approved app for both organizations. Not gonna happen, probably. 💀
Pretty much all modern software is garbage. I routinely have to go back to 2009 or earlier to find stuff that isn’t awful.
The examples are pretty funny. Is VERY slow. Like I thought old outlook was a bit on the slow side for syncing. The videos they provide are remarkably slow in every day interactions.
The only improvement I notice is the search. But to be honest that feature couldn’t get any worse anyway.
I have to use Outlook for work. It’s difficult or impossible to find the features that were actually useful in the new Outlook.
I still use old Outlook because at least it actually works.
It’s so, so bad. I hate it so much. It makes me angry every time I have to do it. Especially when I try to do some sort of action that’s buried 3 menus deep but it decides to sync something at that moment and just pops you out of whether the fuck you were trying to do.
Same. I will stick with old outlook as long as I can.
Even opening a task takes ten or more seconds on new outlook. What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
Windows 11 ships with two versions of Outlook. There is Outlook Classic, the long-running Win32 desktop app built for power users, and there is the new Outlook, which Microsoft is pushing as the future of email on Windows. The newer one is built on WebView2 and is, in essence, a browser window that loads Outlook.com.
Old Outlook downloads all your stuff when you sync, so it’s immediately available when you try to look at it. New Outlook just being a wrapper around a website probably means it’s asking the server for things as you select them.
Oh that’s bullshit.
It must be really bad over there at that billion-dollar company where they can’t maintain both a website and a native app. Aww.
What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
Eating all your ram I would guess 🤷♂️
Someone in MS saw the old Outlook, heard the complaints, and thought it was a great opportunity to lead a full rewrite and new product launch in order to get promoted.
Good thing that the new Outlook at least doesn’t force itself onto you… oh, wait
I don’t understand how people can stand this sort of software (or quality of software). The only explanation is they are hostages of the situation.
That’s been Microsoft’s business strategy for decades now.
We should all go back to mutt or elm. Maybe pine.
And with the power of AI we’re going to keep making those delays LONGER!
Using “New” Outlook is granting Microsoft’s webmail server permission to access and read everything in your mailbox, from the day it was created to the latest email received. Anyone using it willingly is a fucking idiot.
All it IS is an edge webview window loading outlook.com. Go ahead. Block outlook.com and watch it fail spectacularly.Microsoft doesn’t know how to make software anymore. That’s not an anti-AI thing, or even an anti-microsoft thing, they just truly don’t know.
It’s not a tech company anymore. The people in charge aren’t nerds, they aren’t coders, their business people now. The org is so large and cumbersome that the left hand never knows what the right is doing. How can they possibly make software when you have to go through 42 teams for even the smallest feature request, miles of red tape, approvals, legal, everything. Small startups can build better things because they don’t have all the stupid bureaucracy of big tech, and Microsoft just keeps adding more. “Maybe even more overhead will get us operational!” It’s no wonder to me they’re falling behind, they don’t know how to make things anymore.
Isn’t it an improvement if it takes 10 seconds to crash instead of crashing immediately?
My favorite is when outlook pops up a meeting notification about five minutes into the meeting after I’m already in the meeting.
My favorite thing about the meeting notifications is that the organizer sets the reminder. So, if their default is no reminder, nobody gets a notification.
I’ve been in meetings where several people missed the start of the meeting because of this. And no, there is no way to override it, even with a rule.
