A few solar resources for all:
Stand to reason, the operating costs of a coal fired power station are immense compared to a renewable energy source. They can’t compete. That’s the major reason that industry doesn’t want to build them.
Here’s some reading for you about who’s trying to mislead who: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_denial
Tell me you didn’t watch the video(s) without telling me you didn’t watch the video.
Clicking on a link without knowing the website it leads to? By someone who doesn’t bother to say anything about the link? 😆 😂 🤣 I mean, everything about you checks out. You’re such a typical case.
Really? You don’t know youtube or how to copy a link without clicking on it? Wow!
If you’re 5 you probably shouldn’t be using the internet but i can ELI5 you on how to, although i don’t think the topic will interest you.In their defense, most of the time when someone just posts a YouTube link on social media it’s a complete waste of time. Video is very slow to get to the point, that’s why we’re reading!
This particular youtuber is know to be “slow”, but thorough in the topics he covers.
This particular video has an “extra” 30m, you can stick to just the first hour.
The TL;DR is that solar makes more sense than coal in the murican Midwest.“solar makes more sense than coal in the murican Midwest” - Thanks, I actually don’t need a 30 minute video for this.
You can copy paste the transcript (or download the vtt subs with yt-dlp) into any AI and let it hallucinate a summary for you.
Ooh is there a website that does this? I want to bring it down to one step without visiting YouTube.
Clicking on a link without knowing the website it leads to?
most of the time when someone just posts a YouTube link on social media it’s a complete waste of time
Completely different arguments. This is moving the goalposts
It’s not moving goalposts, it’s level 1 and level 2.
Fair, I assumed they meant the channel in context.
Have to sit through ads just to see it’s a 90 minute video with next to no context of why I should trust this person with my time. In a era where most info is at best wildly ignorant and at worst maliciously misleading?
Good point.
(1:20:24) We are clearly living under leaders who have a completely different understanding of reality than the rest of us do, and they are so high on their own supply that their followers will believe abject lies. Renewable energy is only controversial because they made it so. And they don’t want you thinking through the reality which is free energy from reusable materials, as I’ve just explained. They have donors who still make money selling you fossil fuels, and so they do not want you thinking about how much you’re spending and how we have the opportunity to stop.
(1:27:13) Be that helping hand. Organizing networks are popping up everywhere because those of us who managed to grow up into adults, who care about people other than ourselves, are not going to stand by and let this illegitimate government run by petulant toddlers, violate the Constitution and the very principles that make America great. My fellow Midwesterners in Minnesota have made me so proud. Stay strong and keep teaching us how to be brave and resist this horrible chapter of our history with steadfast, nonviolent defiance. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is a lawless group of masked thugs terrorizing our cities and neighbors for daring to look not quite white. Anyone who has any understanding of history will know that it is happening here. And if you believe that to be true, then you should also believe that ICE must be abolished. And if that freaks you out, I’m going to guess you’ve been told the people who say that want completely open borders. Some people do, but most people simply took the poem on the Statue of Liberty as meaningful and think this country should open its arms wide and provide a legal pathway to immigration. Just as our ancestors did on the storied Ellis Island. It is our decades long inability to have true immigration reform occur which put us in this place and what we’re doing today to fix it is clearly wrong. It is a racist ethnic cleansing operation happening on the pretext of childcare fraud, which was already being investigated and dealt with by the state of Minnesota, but which some terminally online weirdos somehow got wind of and spun into this madness. And that madness is being perpetrated by agents of the state and endorsed by Republicans. Republicans could stop this now, but they won’t. and the reason I know we absolutely can abolish ICE? I am older than ICE. In fact, I’m older than the entire Department of Homeland Security. That agency was created post 9/11. And in retrospect, the folks who thought “Homeland” Security sounds kind of ominous were apparently correct. We need to throw this system out and start over. And so, yes, I believe ICE must be abolished. There is no reforming that agency of thugs. It has to go. And the lawless criminals hiding behind masks who are violating the Fourth Amendment day in and day out, need to be prosecuted for each and every one of their crimes. I will be voting in the primaries and I sure as well hope my representative, Sean Casten, starts saying that with clarity and conviction. Sean has been one of the people who understand the realities of renewable energy, and has been a long time advocate of it, so we’ve been pretty aligned, but we’re not aligned on everything. And my patience is starting to break. So if you made it here. Thank you for watching. I hope we can bring some sanity back to this country and that we can start calling lies what they are.
Spot on!!! 🥇
You watch ads?
😆 🤣 I can’t argue with that logic can I? It’s the only possible conclusion! Name-calling, insults, etc. You keep dig yourself deeper. But seriously, if my life depends on fossil fuels, you can relax, soak in the sun, and we’ll all be crawling to you. You don’t even have to bother with trying to mislead anyone.
He called you names after pointing out you can copy a link without opening it. What about that? You implied doing that is impossible:
Clicking on a link without knowing the website it leads to? By someone who doesn’t bother to say anything about the link? 😆 😂 🤣
Those are the emojis of someone who’s confidently wrong. Just admit you didn’t even bother what the video tries to say by reading the comments.
“you can copy a link without opening it. What about that?”
I have no problem with you doing that.
“You implied doing that is impossible”
Sure … copying links is impossible … let’s go with that … confidently wrong … maybe one day you’ll understand.
but experts say coal emits carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, and several other pollutant
What the hell is this crap reporting. It’s not like this is a contested fact or an opinion.I think they meant “an ALLEGED greenhouse gas”
“Experts say power plants ‘burn coal to convert water into steam.’”
I mean, does anyone really know how these things operate?
Much of North America has enjoyed electricity steady enough not to think much past don’t wiz on the electric fence.
That was a multi-generational achievement.
Every power source is a solar power source if you follow the trail back far enough.
The tide comes in. The tide goes out.
You can’t explain that!
Omg, I’ve explained this so many times on here. The tide comes in because the tide goes out. See? Everything has an explanation.
Anyone with a passing knowledge of chemistry and thermodynamics would know how it works in theory at least.
But what about “clean coal”? Checkmate, Atheists!
The MAGA response “No it didn’t! No it didn’t! Fox and The Anointed One didn’t say so! Fake news! Fake news!”
Coal is black and dusty, solar panels are black and clean, it’s clean coal as promised!
This is actually a pretty major indictment on the US. Coal is one of the worst most inefficient fuel sources for power generation, virtually every other fuel source is an improvement including incineration of food waste.
A good test of how efficient fuel is is to see how much of it you still have left after you’ve theoretically burnt all of it. The fact that coal smoke is black is a pretty good indication of how bad it is. You’re throwing away a good chunk of your fuel.
I love the trivia that there’s traces of uranium in coal which go up with the smoke - coal is worse than nuclear in terms of radiological pollution.
When looking if it was feasible to convert coal power plants to nuclear, we found out that most of the coal sites have more radioactivity than is allowed for a future nuclear site
And Mercury
First time ? (Spaniard here)
In spite of the idiocracy
Solar is more efficient. The corporations will move over to the most efficient power source regardless of what the administration may or may not want. Continuing to use coal just to appease Trump is stupid.
Anyway they can just lie and say that they are using coal for everything, it’s not like anyone is going to check
The current problem with mass solar plants is that they lose a good chunk of the stored energy before it is distributed to where it goes. Obviously far better than coal, but the panels need to be at the source of where they need to go, hence why roof top solar panels on buildings are great idea. Wind power is a lot more efficient, but it isn’t like we can all plonk big windmills on our roofs.
Bold of you to try to make a distinction between this admin and corporations. But of course, they’ll hedge. My point is that they do so uphill and slowly, without the research, subsidy/tax incentives and media praise that would typically accelerate progress towards such an obvious next step
Companies tend to be international. No matter what they might be telling the Trump administration in the United States if they’ve got solar desires in other parts of the world they’re going to pursue them without having to prostrate themselves at the altar of idiocy. Hell, they might get praise in other countries for pursuing solar.
So they know the economic benefits and they know their benefits would be doubled if they were operating in the US as well.
Surprised the Pedo-in-Chief doesn’t immediately halt this so he can get more money from the coal lobbyists
He’s been trying! Courts keep overturning it but it’s been on and off for both wind and solar construction
Capitalism does work afterall
bUt WhAtAbOuT wHeN iT’s nIghTime u sTUpId LIbS!?!?!
-MF’s who have never heard of a battery
They’ve heard plenty about battery, it’s on their arrest records
Ironically, USA ranks second on battery infrastructure, behind China, and ahead of my country, Australia.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-28/australia-global-battery-leader-and-wa-leads-charge/106526042
Lucky for us, the sun is up when energy and AC usage is highest in the daytime.
All you need to do is put a solar panel under a lamp post, infinite electricity.
Or simply run dirty energy as a last resort. You don’t need to, and shouldn’t be, dependent on a single energy source.
they’re also getting the benefits of solar, despite voting for the moron nixing renewables while peddling coal and oil.
States won by President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election accounted for 74% of all solar capacity installed in the first quarter
Part of that is because of how fucking empty the middle fly over states are.
“Pffft … batteries are for toys … my delusions tell me the following pictures are fake because I say so and I don’t need to prove anything because jesus tells me petroholics like me are always right:”
Those aren’t batteries, batteries are black and gold and round. Those things are evil woke liberal batteries and so don’t work.
Obviously fake, everybody knows that batteries are ruined by rain. Just like magnets.
Next you’re gonna tell me that the Moon can come out during the day!
Heard a fantastic quote this morning for people with similar believes:
This are the same people who ask ChatGPT what time it is
Beautiful !
I’ve unironically met people who use ChatGPT for everything. (and who unironically now think magnets are turned off by water since the president said it)
Like I literally had coffee with someone who while we were chatting they mentioned that they “asked ChatGPT if the place was queer friendly” before they agreed to go out for coffee.
It’s like bro, did the pride flags year round not tip you off? The maps link literally has pictures of the place with snow on the ground and pride flags in the windows!
So many people have forgotten how to think and it’s infuriating. They’ll believe a chatbot before their own eyes.
Wouldn’t it be better to have them underground with vents?
“Of course! Houses, shopping malls, bridges, skyscrapers and churches should all be underground! Somebody’s gotta pay to keep those diesel excavators running!!”
That’s great and all, but I’m still waiting for it to be affordable to install my own so that it can also be a whole-house uninterruptible power supply.
“If you wait long enough, you can run on FUSION! Imagine THAT! Only 50 years to go!”
Obviously it depends on your use case but at least for me having an uninterruptible power supply for the maybe one day in 4 years that I have a power cut, it isn’t worth it unless the installation cost is negligible.
I think for most people putting a few panels on the roof is probably good enough. Especially if they end up getting an electric car in the end which can do reverse charging.
Progress be progress. We’ll get there folks.
Electrical energy. You’re still not getting off fossil fuels for a long time, the only way is either we all live in car-less 300sq.ft condos with no windows and central laundry, or population reduces drastically.
I’ve only driven an electric car for the last 4 years with an 65 mile daily commute. I save ~$1000 a year on electricity vs gas. My affordable electric accelerates way faster than my previous turbocharged Audi A4.
But the best part is, I never have to go to a gas station.
A serious question. Are you paying a road tax to drive on the roads with your EV yet? In the US, some states are now starting to look into how to charge EV owners a road use tax. ICE cars pay that tax at the pump and the more you drive, the more tax you pay. EV owners that charge at home, (and who wouldn’t do that), currently pay no road taxes because they buy no or very little “fuel”.
I’m interested to know what the states think is a fair tax amount. Particularly since EV owners tend to be wealthier than most people. And what EV owners think of paying such a tax.
My state charges an EV tax at vehicle registration renewal that is substantially more than the tax that would be paid on gasoline. I’d have to drive around 5 times what I do before it starts getting close. There were talks of adding some other kind of tax too, beyond this, which would be double dipping. I’m the kind of person that would happily pay taxes although I find the execution of this poor since it is largely rooted in entrenched interests. Namely selling ethanol.
The thing about fuel taxes is you pay based on how much you drive. More drive, more fuel, more taxes. And I’m sure you don’t drive all that many miles every year. But, what about someone that drives their EV 2x what you do. Which causes 2x the road wear and tear that you do. Is a flat tax fair to you?
EV owners that charge at home, (and who wouldn’t do that), currently pay no road taxes because they buy no or very little “fuel”.
They pay no road tax for fuel but they do pay road taxes elsewhere. Roads are not funded solely on fuel taxes.
Obviously fuel taxes do not cover the whole cost of road maintenance, and they haven’t for decades. Where are those EVs paying road use taxes beyond registration and license fees? The more you drive an ICE car, the more fuel tax you will pay. And that’s fair. Shouldn’t EVs pay for the mileage they drive on the roads too? Is it OK that an EV that doesn’t drive many miles a year should pay the same flat tax/fee that another EV that gets driven 3x as many miles?
I’m all for EV use, I’d own one if I could afford one for sure. But the prices are a bar to ownership. In any case, states ARE looking into chiseling into the lost revenue that EVs are currently ducking. They want the revenue stream.
Coal is mostly used to produce electricity and steel. So more electricity from solar then coal is actually good news.
However oil and gas are much harder to replace, but again we actually have a lot of the technology, it is “just” about rolling it out on scale, which is hard.
That chart seems to go until 2024. The article concerns 2026.
The article talks about energy, while they mean just electricity generation. My graph was about primary energy demand.
Yes, but isn’t the graph limited to 2024? Do you have one through to the date in the article?
It’s the most recent dataset “Energy Institute - Statistical Review of World Energy (2025) – with major processing by Our World in Data. “Share of primary energy consumption that comes from oil – Using the substitution method” [dataset]. Energy Institute, “Statistical Review of World Energy” [original data].” If you look at the historical data you’ll notice that year over year changes are small. The reason coal is declining is because coal-intensive industrial processes have moved to other countries and because of the current transient natural gas glut due to oil fracking. This will not last.
So the dataset doesn’t cover the time period the article is talking about?
I think the article showed a small blip where solar gained footing over coal. I think it makes sense that this wasn’t what has happened in the past.
Let’s see what happens I guess
I never thought I’d see the day!
