The fact that they have to charge $60 to not have all that crap in there should tell you everything about why they have that crap in there. Taking it out kills their revenue stream from their “free” fully-featured version.
That’s what you get for using a broader called brave. We all knew we’d end up here.
Unless you absolutely want to contribute to the chromium monopoly, Firefox is right there and still free. If you’re concerned about the telemetry, LibreWolf is worth looking at.
This is just my opinion but, no one using chrome should complain about telemetry in FF.
Mandatory note: you cannot contribute a dime towards Firefox. Google contributes, not you. Money given to Mozilla will find its way into AI experiments (https://www.mozilla.ai/) and AI grants (https://mozilla.vc/).
Gonna call it now: that 60 quid ‘one time’ purchase is not gonna be the end of it.
In, at most, a couple of years, one of these things will happen:
- the model will be switched to a monthly subscription
- features will be cut and sold separately
- ‘limited, non-targeted’ ads ‘from trusted partners’ will be introduced
- the thing will be buried completely because it’s not financially viable
That’s what one gets for installing US-tech. They invented enshittification and here we go.
Knew I was right to never even check brave out.
Don’t forget the “major” version increment that breaks “lifetime”.
- Oh, you’re mistaken. The license is for the lifetime of version 32. To use version 33 you must upgrade. But no rush, you have until version 33.1 before we activate the kill switch.
Or they rebrand it, and pull the “lifetime is only to the end of the product lifetime” trick.
Thanks, but I’ll just stick to Firefox
Firefox+Betterfox is whatever brave is trying to do here, but free and open. Fuck brave and their scummy practices. Module isn’t perfect, but in comparison is clear.
Oh shit. Someone finally called my “I’d pay not to have to use AI” bluff.
Brave, and Brandon Eck are shit anyway, with or without AI.
Good news for me! I don’t have to pay since I don’t use brave at all. Yay me!
Huh, funnily enough, Ive introduced my own $60 fee if they want me to read the Terms of Service and Privacy Policy agreements that come along with their browser.
Donate to LadyBird.
The idea behind ladybird is great. I just just wish someone else was at the helm. Kling seems to be kind of a huge douche.
Brave is something I never wanted in the first place.
You can go into the settings and manually disable (nearly?) all the features that are removed in the paid version without paying anything. That’s what I did. They aren’t paywalling the ability disable the features.
It doesn’t matter to me whether someone uses Brave or not, but the headline is misleading, though pedantically accurate.
Mozilla take note. You can actually get money from your users for a change, and not just through Google.
Especially when your userbase, the people you’re supposedly building your browser for, keep telling you to keep AI out of it.
Brave is actually listening to their users. Mozilla should feel humiliated that they never do.
I get all Mozilla hate, but I’d rake them twice before touching google with a 10m-pole.
And what else have we got? Some more or less decent forks of either Firefox or chrome. Which still needs the base to exist.
Mozilla, the company that recently added a “disable AI” toggle to Firefox?
It’s not as good as not implementing the things in the first place, for people who don’t want it, but making it a paid model for removing features would net them more flack, I feel. They’d be accused of trying to squeeze their user base, when Firefox is traditionally free.
I saw that toggle for the first time today. Made me feel a little better about all the AI stuff and that sometimes my telemetry settings reset. I don’t know if the tele thing is ff or just my config to be clear. Today my wife asked me for how to get rid of the ai search summary in Chrome. That leads me to believe that even some “normies” aren’t thrilled with AI everywhere. I agree with you that a paid version of ff would rankle the community.
Honestly I don’t hate that at all
If you really want to use a chromium-based browser, Vivaldi does all this and for free. It’s not bad, definitely a bit faster than firefox but that’s the nature of the beast for the web these days. I also like having my tabs on the side rather than the top. I think you can do that with Firefox via an extension, I’ll have to play around. But I much prefer using Firefox in my daily life
Vivaldi’s ad blocking is far worse. I’m not sure how they built it, but even after you disable the whitelists for their paying partners, it misses things Brave and uBO on Firefox don’t.
Vivaldi still supports Manifest V2, doesn’t it? So you should be able to put UBO on it as well.
Vertical tabs is a built in function of FF. I think you just right click on a tab and there’s an option on the context menu to switch maybe?
Only since like last year, so it’s not a huge surprise someone would be unaware.
I wasn’t trying to belligerent, just informative. I might even be wrong, just riffing from memory.
Oh no, I didn’t take it that way. In fact your first sentence could very well be my reply back to you!
