Wait, but you can’t run GrapheneOS on any Sony devices? Huh??
Reported for being awesome.
Well ig its time to stop buying anything made by Sony.
That time was after the first rootkit.
SecuROM? (i think)
sad, they’re one of the few brands left that still have the audio port
csrrying 2 phones is the way to go imho. One for these stupid apps and the other for your personal data. So its like the work / personal phone setup but instead we have private / non -private phone.
This is likely the route I’ll take in the near future.
Lately I’ve been thinking that this, unfortunately, is the way.
Dunno why I never considered that. A VPN over wifi on one, for banking and whatever… and then my phone. Hell, I used to carry an MP3 player, flip phone, and a camera if the time called for it. Making me feel like I lost my way lol, appreciate the succinct tip
Edit: smacking my head cause I literally have to carry two phones at work, as is. Why tf have I never considered this as an option for myself, even when I knew it was optional? Damn man, gonna grab me a phone for personal use and put this one to (for) work. Thanks again my friend
For an in-depth technical breakdown and why GrapheneOS cannot bypass Google Play Integrity check even with it’s Play Services Sandbox mode, check here: https://thecybersecguru.com/news/yoti-grapheneos-sony-playstation-age-verification/
Oh, looks like they don’t like people owning the stuff Sony makes. I know a way to solve that issue.
Revoke Sony’s corporate charter? Ban Sony products from being imported? Criminally charge the CEO and board?
Well all that would be great, but we all know none of that will happen. We can (and should) just stop buying Sony items however as they are not doing so great on that front already. This is the issue when brands do stupid shit, no one seems to want to just stop buying.
We can (and should) just stop buying Sony items however as they are not doing so great on that front already.
Waaay ahead of ya there, buddy. I’ve been deliberately boycotting Sony since at least the rootkit in 2005, and I think the newest Sony product I actually bought was a Walkman cassette player.
Trouble is, Sony somehow still went right on existing as a huge multinational corporation for the last 20 years anyway. It’s almost as if boycotts aren’t enough and we actually need consumer protection law. 🤔
My line was when I learned their phones had non standard screen sizes for the reason of “fuck you”.
Ngl we basically can’t buy anything anymore
Hey, silver lining there. We are all broke and Sony is priced out of the market.
I’ma have to re-remember a facet of my life where “I’ll make do” was a thing. I mean, it still very much so is… but fuck, I could be “making do” even more if I tried just a little. I don’t wanna, because comfortability and all that, but I’ve done more with less in my past. I’m tired, but I guess it is what it is for the time being. Really wish I didn’t have to because of greedy evil, but fuck 'em… good luck in your bunker, I’ll smile at the sun instead
After going through the linked threads. Discussing graphene OS or any other ROM on r/privacy will get you banned. WTF‽
Because the person who makes it gets touchy on some things and started drama with someone or doxxed them or whatever type deal. It’s not like you can’t talk about it you just can’t use the word because he was going through and being weird about conversations about it. It’s nothing against him or them it’s just one of those developers being a unique type of person - which makes sense in the hyper privacy space.
So you’d ban the user for being a weirdo, not the discussion
He’s certainly “unique”.
I feel like he only gets away with it because people find the Dev of a privacy OS being incredibly paranoid somewhat reassuring…
He gets away with it because he makes a high quality OS that people want to use. I don’t see it as much worse than e.g. using Linux when Torvalds is kind of an asshole.
“kind of an asshole” is a huge understatement. He’s said some truly unforgivable things
What unforgivable things has he said?
Here’s a collection of some fun rants he’s had, I personally don’t think they’re unforgivable but people’s tolerance for crash outs varies.
There are many other rants not collected here
There are other reasons to not use Linux, but Linux (+glibc +systemd +libinput…) is basically “the Unix” nowadays…
Pretty sure that is it. A lotta people in response to seeing him decry certain technologies tend to say, “that uncompromising nature on privacy is why GrapheneOS holds up so well.” Which I gotta be real when I say that it really does make me feel more comfortable with GrapheneOS’ development. I can’t keep up with all news on it, I’m not wanting to completely audit all the source code, but having a development team led by someone like that does bring a sense of ease toward my phone.
All these scumbag companies are making it easier and easier for me to avoid their products.
But they are making it harder to have products too.
You just have to get creative and shop around. I’ve had a full journey since the beginning of Android starting with HTC. Used Sony, Samsung, Razer… all went to shit one way or another.
Nowadays very happy with Redmi and Oneplus. I got a Redmi watch and it’s battery lasts nearly a month!
I’ve pretty much gone back to my 2000s era mindset of “I don’t need a smart phone when I have PCs in front of me at work and at home.”
But really it’s more like I already have an old smart phone but hate using it and never want to have to upgrade. We’ll see what Motorola can make happen.
It is only a couple years ago that I bought my first iPhone. I still hate it.

fuuuuuk, I used to like SONY phones
Wow, thanks Sony. Still being cunts about copyright I see; nothing has changed since the SecuROM/XCP days…
I swear I haven’t bought anything Sony since that happened. There are just betrayals that go too far to ever be forgiven.
To be completely honest with you, Sony hasn’t released an interesting product in about 20 years anyway
It’s somewhat interesting as a case study, how they break standards compliance to enforce proprietary lock-in.
Sony makes some of the best full frame cameras on the market. Granted it’ll cost you like $6k but Sony still makes some really good tech. I do not own a Sony products btw. In regards to cameras, I’m using Fujifilm, but they aren’t even close to Sony tech wise.
I thought so too but recently I actually met a professional photographer who works in marketing, and he told me that Sony cameras produced terrible colours across the board and recommended I go with Canon instead.
I’ve got no experience with either brands so no idea, my go-to was always Nikon.
Nikon’s camera sensors come from Sony. But Nikon engineers always do some magic. That’s why NASA uses Nikon cameras in space. Canon is arguably the best, but also the most expensive and not friendly to third party lenses. Sony lets you put any lens you want if you got the right adaptor. And that photographer you met isn’t wrong, but that is exactly why professionals have to edit their photos after a shoot. With Fujifilm I try to do it all in camera cuz editing hundreds of photos becomes exhausting after years.
Nikon’s camera sensors come from Sony.
Really? Huh, always thought they made their sensors in-house.
Looked it up and apparently they did at some point, but seemingly only in their professional cameras (D2h, D3, D4). But Sony isn’t their only supplier when it comes to sensors apparently.
I honestly don’t think I would spot the issue he was talking about without comparing photos side-to-side; I’d probably be perfectly happy with a Sony alpha or something, but somehow I’m skewing more towards getting a Canon now.
There’s A LOT more things to weigh and compare than simply a brand. Canon, Sony, or Nikon, all their latest flagships will make anyone happy. It all comes down to what you want and what you need out of it. I don’t need video features or fast action sports, others do. Personally, I’d use any of those 3, but if all you care about is top of the class, then get a Canon. It will be the priciest option, there’s a reason most professional use it.
Their OLED TVs have the best upscaling tech and I am glad they still support 4K Blu-rays because physical media is important to me. Otherwise most of their products have better alternatives.
They also make great projectors.
On the TV side, they sold 51% to Chinese TCL, so I expect things will start going downhill fast from here, which is a shame.
Oof didn’t know that rip
This is unexpected, given that Sony had a really great support for allowing bootloader unlock and support for AOSP. Till today you could flash Jolla’s SailfishOS on their devices.
Probably has more to do with the fact that GrapheneOS doesn’t implement age verification thinking about it, I’m still gonna hold a grudge about SecuROM and XCP though
Till today you could flash Jolla’s SailfishOS on their devices.
Pretty sure that’s still possible. I mean this whole post is about someone flashing an alternative ROM to their Sony device.
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The peeps at Sony (™️)
So you need to do a face ID to play games in PlayStation in some countries now??? WTF
Coming to a country near you!
Sad stuff.
I can’t decide who’s the shittiest between Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. Guess I’ll just stick to PC games and emulators.
Let’s end this bullshit once and for all, and go FOSS.
OK, ty , exit Sony
Wow that’s pretty fucked.
I guess the time to sell my PS5 is fast approaching. Let’s see if Sony says anything about this. Either way, the moment my console asks me to verify my age, it’s getting sold.
Never even bought one. I couldn’t find anything compelling enough this generation to buy one and that decision has paid off.
The only reason I want one is for a remake anyway. I love Demons Souls but not that much
Yeah. I was a fan of PS exclusive games. Horizon, GOW, Ghost of Tsushima, etc., but no game is so good that I’m willing to put up with their bullshit. Its time to drop Sony for me.
Gaming then: Three decent games a year
Gaming now: One decent game every three years.
Big budget exclusives sure, plenty of good games to play every year, and many “old” games get updates every year keeping them fresh, you would only buy expansions back then, while a 6/10 game 5 years after release can become a 8-9/10
Your comment does apply to Sony exclusives tho
It was aimed at AAA and AA.
Indie, as always, is doing just fine. But nobody needs a PS5 to play Slay the Spire 2.
The last console I bought was a PS3. I only bought it because it was one of the cheapest bluray players at the time. The games were way too expensive. Now I only play PC games and I wait a few years and buy them when they are on sale and have hopefully had all of the major bugs fixed.

















