There are newer models that can charge to 80% in 15 min. It will probably take a while until fast chargers are widespread, but this is where things are going.
ICE engines also need oil changes, transmission fluid, headgaskets,belts.
I agree that modern “it’ll spy on you” car software sucks ass. The actual battery and charging tech is way way better than 2018 though. No one has to stop for 45 minutes.
Ok so you bought an electric car knowing full well you were not able to charge it at will at night (and I assume nowhere in your regular daily routine, like at work) and now complain about that?
I’m from Canada and I hate I bought a giant bikini collection but bikini season is only 1 month here… therefore, bikinis suck!
Ok, searching for the perfect hairy dude in a bikini in snow picture as a humorous reply, means I now have a browser history no one can ever see …… and I didnt find one that was funny
I didn’t buy it. It was gifted to me. I didn’t know anything about EV. After having used it now for 8 years, I know I never want another EV ever again.
You can only try. My ex’s HOA did bring chargers up for a vote, but tabled it when they realized how limited the electrical service for common areas was
While I don’t know whether it would have passed, it’s a step
Part of the infrastructure funding for EVs was targeted to help landlords and HOAs. Plus my state had landlord incentives similar to those for purchasers. Yes we know those need a kickstart
The other thing is the timing. None of those mandates were immediate. Most of them were ten years or more, only affecting new cars. So we have a full decade to get chargers in more places and at least another decade where most cars were still ICE: we can do it
The logical answer here is to make the EV mandate tied to actual infrastructure build-out milestones then. Build the infrastructure then mandate EVs, rather than mandating EVs and hoping that infrastructure gets built out quickly enough.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Trick question: You need both.
It’s not realistic to build the infrastructure first, then transition: no one could afford that. It would be a huge waste and a boondoggle.
However I do think it was well planned: even the Chinese government would be surprised at our planning…… if we had actually followed through.
In addition to the decades long transition, there was
subsidies for car manufacturers to retool and retrain
incentives for EV buyers
incentives for home charger installers, from consumer to landlord to business
infrastructure money to start building out trip chargers along interstates
So yes, the infrastructure would have grown with the market, more smoothly than the market alone could have. Yes American companies would have solid business advantages in new technologies. Yes, American car companies would still be relevant at that point
It’s the waiting 45 minutes to charge that I hate.
There are newer models that can charge to 80% in 15 min. It will probably take a while until fast chargers are widespread, but this is where things are going.
That won’t stop battery degradation.
Yeah, it won’t.
ICE engines also need oil changes, transmission fluid, headgaskets,belts.
I agree that modern “it’ll spy on you” car software sucks ass. The actual battery and charging tech is way way better than 2018 though. No one has to stop for 45 minutes.
Yea and I can do my own maintenance. That’s another factor that sucks about EV. You can’t even do any work yourself.
No more oil to change so I can feel like a mechanic :( .
Oh look, a shell representative
don’t you just charge overnight most of the time?
that’s what most poeple do
Yea, would be nice if I had my own house to add a charger to. I rent and have to use communal chargers.
Ok so you bought an electric car knowing full well you were not able to charge it at will at night (and I assume nowhere in your regular daily routine, like at work) and now complain about that?
I’m from Canada and I hate I bought a giant bikini collection but bikini season is only 1 month here… therefore, bikinis suck!
Ok, searching for the perfect hairy dude in a bikini in snow picture as a humorous reply, means I now have a browser history no one can ever see …… and I didnt find one that was funny
close enough
I didn’t buy it. It was gifted to me. I didn’t know anything about EV. After having used it now for 8 years, I know I never want another EV ever again.
Oh wow I see… I feel sorry for you getting a free car you could have just sold if it didn’t fit the bill for you
Have you asked your work to add chargers?
Condos generally won’t let you have chargers. HOA hate everyone.
Not everyone can afford the boomer American dream of detached housing.
You can only try. My ex’s HOA did bring chargers up for a vote, but tabled it when they realized how limited the electrical service for common areas was
While I don’t know whether it would have passed, it’s a step
then why buy an electric car when OP knew full well charging was going to be troublesome?
This is a big argument against EV mandates that several U.S. states have proposed. Where the fuck do people in apartments and condos charge?
The excuses by EV supporters don’t cut it either.
Part of the infrastructure funding for EVs was targeted to help landlords and HOAs. Plus my state had landlord incentives similar to those for purchasers. Yes we know those need a kickstart
The other thing is the timing. None of those mandates were immediate. Most of them were ten years or more, only affecting new cars. So we have a full decade to get chargers in more places and at least another decade where most cars were still ICE: we can do it
The logical answer here is to make the EV mandate tied to actual infrastructure build-out milestones then. Build the infrastructure then mandate EVs, rather than mandating EVs and hoping that infrastructure gets built out quickly enough.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Trick question: You need both.
It’s not realistic to build the infrastructure first, then transition: no one could afford that. It would be a huge waste and a boondoggle.
However I do think it was well planned: even the Chinese government would be surprised at our planning…… if we had actually followed through.
In addition to the decades long transition, there was
So yes, the infrastructure would have grown with the market, more smoothly than the market alone could have. Yes American companies would have solid business advantages in new technologies. Yes, American car companies would still be relevant at that point