• Prove_your_argument@piefed.social
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    20 hours ago

    Condos generally won’t let you have chargers. HOA hate everyone.

    Not everyone can afford the boomer American dream of detached housing.

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      9 hours ago

      You can only try. My ex’s HOA did bring chargers up for a vote, but tabled it when they realized how limited the electrical service for common areas was

      While I don’t know whether it would have passed, it’s a step

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      19 hours ago

      then why buy an electric car when OP knew full well charging was going to be troublesome?

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        14 hours ago

        This is a big argument against EV mandates that several U.S. states have proposed. Where the fuck do people in apartments and condos charge?

        The excuses by EV supporters don’t cut it either.

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          9 hours ago

          Part of the infrastructure funding for EVs was targeted to help landlords and HOAs. Plus my state had landlord incentives similar to those for purchasers. Yes we know those need a kickstart

          The other thing is the timing. None of those mandates were immediate. Most of them were ten years or more, only affecting new cars. So we have a full decade to get chargers in more places and at least another decade where most cars were still ICE: we can do it

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            6 hours ago

            So we have a full decade to get chargers

            The logical answer here is to make the EV mandate tied to actual infrastructure build-out milestones then. Build the infrastructure then mandate EVs, rather than mandating EVs and hoping that infrastructure gets built out quickly enough.

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              5 hours ago

              Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Trick question: You need both.

              It’s not realistic to build the infrastructure first, then transition: no one could afford that. It would be a huge waste and a boondoggle.

              However I do think it was well planned: even the Chinese government would be surprised at our planning…… if we had actually followed through.

              In addition to the decades long transition, there was

              • subsidies for car manufacturers to retool and retrain
              • incentives for EV buyers
              • incentives for home charger installers, from consumer to landlord to business
              • infrastructure money to start building out trip chargers along interstates

              So yes, the infrastructure would have grown with the market, more smoothly than the market alone could have. Yes American companies would have solid business advantages in new technologies. Yes, American car companies would still be relevant at that point