IMO, there’s no expectation of privacy on a company device because it’s their device you’re using for the express purpose of doing work for them. However, a device like the Meta Quest that you bought and paid for, and yet the company insists on locking down and spying on you like they still own it. It’s mine, not yours; fuck off!
This is kinda funny because I’m getting into Fluent Search (Windows) and (trying to make) Hints (Linux) (work), so the company wouldn’t be able to collect as much data on me if my workplace were to start doing this for any reason (though that’s not the reason I’m trying these programs).
Oh you work for Zuckerberg? Fuck you.
The working class needs jobs. Capitalists own the means of production; these means require the workers. Are you arguing that some capitalists are good/bad? They all ravage the world and exploit labor as the capitalist system requires.
I wonder how many of those people have a choice. The job market might not afford people with their credentials many options for decent enough pay to sustain a dignified livelihood.
Some may be callous, some may actively think that what the company is doing is good and right, but I don’t think generalising such sentiments over all employees is fair. The system is fucked; don’t blame the victims.
(Of course, you’d need a kind of social safety net to catch the employees if you want to dismantle the company. Just destroying the old without preparing the new would be counterproductive.)
i don’t, for one second, buy the “i work for facebook because i had no other choice” argument
there are a lot of tech companies
I don’t know the job market where these people are at, or whether the “lot of tech companies” were in their general vicinity (and with the “Return To Office” craze, fully remote work is no longer a certain possibility). I also don’t know whether they applied elsewhere and were rejected. Maybe the “lot of tech companies” includes a lot of the type of “high demands for little pay” environments we occasionally see memes about. And particularly right now with companies working to cull their workforce out of misplaced faith in AI, the prospects for finding a new job become shaky.
Yeah, sure, many might be there because the money is good or whatever. They might stay, even if there are alternatives, even if they paid comparably, because change is scary and they worry that whatever company they jump ship for might sink and leave them desperate for a job again. Possibly out of healthcare too.
In any case, I’m fairly certain that the motivations for working there aren’t all as simple as “I think what they’re doing is good”. When the system is rigged to fuck over workers, I’m inclined to think that many, indeed, have little other tenable choice. Find a way to help the people that want to leave do so safely, then go ahead and condemn the rest.
(I’m not working there myself, just not quite as trigger happy with blanket insults.)
the people you’re defending are working for a corporation that deliberately hooks its users ( particularly kids ) into a fascist sympathizing skinner box in order to surveil them, harvest their PII, and sell it to whoever has the money for it
as the commenter said above: fuck them
Is your argument that they deserve the pay so it doesn’t matter how they get it? They are selfish, and likely over extend themselves financially for ego and status. Apparently you are saying the only way they can be happy is if they are wealthy? What a morally bankrupt philosophy.
The fuck are you getting that from? I didn’t talk about wealth, nor happiness, nor ego and status, nor how any of those things justify working for a horrifyingly evil company.
I talked about a dignified livelihood. You know, being able to pay rent, utilities, groceries, gas and put a little aside so medical emergencies or unexpected expenses don’t trap you in irrecoverable debt.
Is your argument “People should rather starve”? Is the only ethical existence one outside of exploitative, fucked up systems?
I’m sure that many are indeed there because of the money. My argument is that condemning the employees wholesale is likely to catch people that don’t deserve this vilification. My suggestion is to direct that rage against the fucked-up system that both enables exploitative dependencies on employment and allows companies like Meta to exist in the first place.
You think the choices are work for Meta or starve? Its Raytheon or be homeless?
Fuck out of here with that nonsense. If you trade morals for money, dont be surprised when people call you out as morally bankrupt. Isn’t that the trade that was made? Grow up and own your shit.
“We will monitor all our users and sell their meta data to advertisers, but we draw the line at Meta tracking our mouse clicks!”
WAAH!
How’s it feel, motherfuckers!?
Do Meta employees tell people where they work, or do they hide it the way people hide that they’re MAGA. You know, because who would want to fuck a Meta employee?
They don’t hide it because they make bank
Shrug. Meta employees make bank.
Dunno how attractive they are viewed as, because everyone there I personally know were already married before they joined Meta.
The people I know who are MAGA don’t usually try to hide it… I wish they would…
OK, so, I hate Meta and offer no sympathy. But, if I were hypothetically in that scenario, I would work very hard to develop a keyboard centric workflow. Sure, they can key log everything, but it’s going to be way more annoying for them to go through tons and tons of TAB strokes.
There will be generated summaries - the LLMs don’t care about input format
If I was in that scenario I’d us AI to drive my workstation and only talk to the ai. Feed the ai garbage ai training data.
They take sceenshots and use ml to summarize segments of activity probably
I would just buy a mouse jiggler and flood the training data with junk inputs. Leave your computer on over night with the jiggler going.
Can you install a second and third mouse as well?
Unfortunately that is almost certainly detectable too
