I don’t mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That’s just creepy. Fuck off.
It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?
Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.
How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
He’s saying if you have a credit card to pay there’s no need to verify (I think)
Edit: nah I’m wrong, cheers
I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself
Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.
Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands
given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database and your behaviour being mapped for suspicious illegal activity like criticising genocide.
You’re right and I’d go a bit further: It’s none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.
Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.
The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.
Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can’t watch porn…
*so that the government can say kids won’t watch porn.
Rule 1 of computers that everyone who has taught an ICT class learns - if little Timmy wants titties, he finds a way.
…on major/regulated sites only.
It has absolutely nothing to do with kids watching porn.
Of course.
God forbid people teach their kids sex/getting off is a drug and can be abused.
Who taught you sex is a drug? As long as words mean their definitions, it’s categorically not. Plus it’s probably kinda harmful to pile on the stigma already surrounding sex by conflating it with drugs and all the stigma that comes with that.
Hopefully I’m wrong, but it’s kinda giving a nofap pseudoscience red flag to me.
Parents definitely should be teaching their kids about this stuff at the appropriate time, but they should stick to the facts.
First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now they’re trying to take my rock and roll
I mean… it is a rush of dopamine and can become addictive. Same as a videogame or gambling though. Not a drug but can get unhealthy if it leads to maladaptive daily functioning.
In Sweden pretty much anybody has Bank Id, an app which is connected to a bank account and which can function as a valid identification.
App belongs a private company, but it’s still trustworthy and everybody can sign government docs with that.
This is how you should do age verification, through a third party app, not like any site will get your id/picture to just end in their DBs ready to be stolen.
Every government should create an app for the online id, I don’t get why this seems so hard to achieve.
It’s super trustworthy bro I swear
Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?
I’d prefer my internet free…
Like other medias before, internet probably has reached a need for some harder control. I’m not talking about porn, I’m talking about disinformation, bots and soon AI.
Not sure which is the best way but I’ll not give any id or credit card to any randim site in order to see their content.
Don’t threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.
The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.
Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.
what are “spotify fans”? Spotify paid 150k $ for Trump’s inauguration party, f them. They do not deserve my money
ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s
So I feel like I’m now hearing more successful pushes for censorship through this stuff.
Just last week I learned how Texas has a bill that makes it so if anyone ever invested in green technology that they wouldn’t be allowed
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/texas-boycott-companies-fossil-fuels/
I saw a post saying /r/period required an age check.
They’re gonna censor as much as they can with this.
Ah, yes. As we all know, periods start at 18, when you’re a legal adult. It’s illegal to have periods before then
That makes no sense, surely everyone has invested in green energy through workplace retirement plans, no?
Is wikipedia on the list? I see reddit is, lol. We might see an influx soon.
not yet, but the wikimedia foundation has been fighting against it expecting that it would be a class 1 site and require it.
We have to protect wikipedia
Here’s one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story
Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it’s ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.
You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.
There’s other resources available via kiwix as well but I’ve not really explored them to be honest
Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it’s impossible to rebuild it.
Piracy preserves media.
Piracy preserves art.
Piracy makes sure, that future generations still have access to the creations of humanity.
Data hoarding is a service to the public.
“Keep circulating the tapes!”
…funnily enough, it may actually be better for musicians if people left spotify, considering the absolute pennies they pay per stream.
Does Spotify really have “fans”? Or maybe just users? And what user spends time “threatening” piracy, if they know how to do it?
Also, I realized only last month that my younger brother doesn’t know how to use torrents. Shame on me for having left home too early!
Or you know you could punish parents for not parenting. Like if kids are watching porn and caught and if it’s actually against some law then go after the parents.
It’s not hard to teach parents how to implement a filtering DNS. But no, countries think they need to be the nanny.
That’s just the pretext they give to justify it. The real reason is surveillance. Now they have a way to confidently tie your accounts to your individual identity. And most of these solutions use third parties which will then sell that data as well, so now anyone can tie your account to you without you ever knowing.
Even if the government is barred from surveilling citizens in these ways, third parties aren’t, and the government can just buy that information, no warrant needed anymore.
And these laws never stop at porn, it’s drugs, LGBTQ information, etc. and they can always easily add additional things later with little fanfare.
“Protecting children” is just the pretext under which governments can sell increased surveillance. The fact that there are more effective ways they could act to protect children, yet governments everywhere continue to push for ID checks and monitoring online activity, shows that the aim isn’t what they say it is.
Don’t forget trying to kill e2e encryption like what the EU wants to do, both to “catch criminals” and “protect the children”
https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-end-of-encryption-as-we-know-it
Spotify fans
“Fans”?
that’s like saying Amazon fans really lol
Don’t threaten, just do it!
I don’t get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.
Back to Piracy! ✊🏴☠️
Really though? It isn’t necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?
Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again 😥 Something lowercase,
like a verb… “normalize” or some such.Navidrome! Thanks @0konomiyaki@aussie.zoneNavidrome maybe? But I use jellyfin + symfonium myself. All my music is either bandcamp or used CDs. Started collecting music late last year and my entire collection is legally sourced now. No piracy required. Hardest part was starting very small and building the collection over time.
Yes! Navidrome!
used CDs
I get them dirt cheap or completely for free. It’s actually reverse piracy (no I’m not serious) since no doubt the previous owners ripped everything.
I switched to Deezer!
I would suggest Qobuz (if available) or Tidal. Deezer’s CEO is a hard-core religious nutjob who finances anti-trans orgs and sexual conversion “therapies”.
Sorry for replying to an old comment, but do you have some source to support this? I am searching online but finding nothing :(
I’ll be honest with you - I read that from someone else either here or on Reddit (and they provided some links that looked legit), but I also can’t find it anymore. Maybe it was about the previous CEO, the original founder? Not sure, so you can ignore that whole part when choosing a streaming service.
I’d still pick Qobuz because of how much more they pay artists, though.
DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE!
Should never have left it behind to be honest.
People sometimes don’t believe me when I tell them I’ve literally never used Spotify.
I am using Spotify Premium. I am using Premium because I want ad free listening.
