And yet, America is still the only country with regular mass shootings.
Everyone acts like people are going to be able to start 3d printing guns and ammunition en masse, and yet it doesn’t happen anywhere at any significant scale. It’s just defeatist nonsense pushed by gun lovers to convince people not to act.
The gun violence is a symptom of a dysfunctional society, not the cause. If the US was more equitable for everyone in terms of money and healthcare, it would go down.
Nothing against sensible gun regulations, but even if you magically disappeared every gun in the country, the problems that mess people up so bad they get violent would remain.
The US is not the least functional nor least equal country in the world, and yet it is the only one with regular mass homicides.
It’s because of wide spread access to point and click murder machines that lower the bar for massacres.
Other issues exacerbate and lead to violence, but the primary difference between the US and everywhere else is everyone carrying a pistol to Walmart like idiots.
Neither of you are talking nonsense.
The US clearly has a combination of problems that combine to cause their massive problem with mass shootings.
Their limited gun control is a contributing factor, but not the only factor. Other countries have weak gun laws and don’t have nearly the same problems, the US didn’t have the same problems in the past, they’ve grown worse over time, and at this point the very concept of mass shootings in media is a major cause of them.
Removing guns (magically removing all existing guns) would certainly reduce the problem and probably would eventually fix things, but at this point the US has been broiling itself in this idea for too long and it would probably continue with knives or homemade bombs or something instead.
Finland has almost as many households (as a %) with guns as the U.S. (38% for Finland vs 42% for the U.S.) yet the U.S. has about 19x the per capita gun homicide rate of Finland.
Wikipedia says that 12% of Finns own a gun, so I’m not sure where you’re getting 38% of households.
Finland also does not allow owning guns for personal protection, open or concealed carry, has mandatory military service, and most of the guns owned are long guns used for hunting and sport shooting. To get a license for a pistol you have to be over 20 and demonstrated over 2 years of experience sport shooting pistols.
I got it from Wikipedia. Households and people are different statistics. People includes children who are unlikely to own a gun.
I also prefer households as a statistic over guns per capita because it avoids the issue of gun collectors who may have hundreds of guns in one household…
It’s too late to put the genie back in the bottle…
It’s not just Glocks, you can 3d print the serialized part of an AK, MP5, and lots of others.
AR needs metal still as far as I know. But for lots of serious weapons you can buy “parts kits” that sent straight to your door for 2-400.
And yet, America is still the only country with regular mass shootings.
Everyone acts like people are going to be able to start 3d printing guns and ammunition en masse, and yet it doesn’t happen anywhere at any significant scale. It’s just defeatist nonsense pushed by gun lovers to convince people not to act.
The gun violence is a symptom of a dysfunctional society, not the cause. If the US was more equitable for everyone in terms of money and healthcare, it would go down.
Nothing against sensible gun regulations, but even if you magically disappeared every gun in the country, the problems that mess people up so bad they get violent would remain.
This is nonsense.
The US is not the least functional nor least equal country in the world, and yet it is the only one with regular mass homicides.
It’s because of wide spread access to point and click murder machines that lower the bar for massacres.
Other issues exacerbate and lead to violence, but the primary difference between the US and everywhere else is everyone carrying a pistol to Walmart like idiots.
Neither of you are talking nonsense. The US clearly has a combination of problems that combine to cause their massive problem with mass shootings.
Their limited gun control is a contributing factor, but not the only factor. Other countries have weak gun laws and don’t have nearly the same problems, the US didn’t have the same problems in the past, they’ve grown worse over time, and at this point the very concept of mass shootings in media is a major cause of them.
Removing guns (magically removing all existing guns) would certainly reduce the problem and probably would eventually fix things, but at this point the US has been broiling itself in this idea for too long and it would probably continue with knives or homemade bombs or something instead.
Finland has almost as many households (as a %) with guns as the U.S. (38% for Finland vs 42% for the U.S.) yet the U.S. has about 19x the per capita gun homicide rate of Finland.
Wikipedia says that 12% of Finns own a gun, so I’m not sure where you’re getting 38% of households.
Finland also does not allow owning guns for personal protection, open or concealed carry, has mandatory military service, and most of the guns owned are long guns used for hunting and sport shooting. To get a license for a pistol you have to be over 20 and demonstrated over 2 years of experience sport shooting pistols.
I got it from Wikipedia. Households and people are different statistics. People includes children who are unlikely to own a gun.
I also prefer households as a statistic over guns per capita because it avoids the issue of gun collectors who may have hundreds of guns in one household…
Yeah but people in Finland are out raking forests all day to prevent wildfires which leaves very little time for mass shootings.
Well yeah that’s sort of the point. The presence of guns alone does not predict gun violence. You need violent people for it to happen.