Is “dragged” the new “slammed”?
Gen Z journalism entered the chat?
Reporters threw Elon Musk off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table after his chatbot admitted he spread lies.
don’t tease me, mate
Chat, is Elon cooked? No cap?
fax, no printer
Holy fuck. I miss shittymorph just for his creative responses using this.
Yeah man. Those were the good ol’ days, when X was called Twitter lol. Musk was absolutely spreading misinformation when it was still called Twitter also, before he owned it. I remember when he started talking complete rubbish about Dogecoin, making its price oscillate all over the place that whole week. One of his fanboys bought in…like hard. A 30-something year old, and he put his whole life savings into Doge at its peek, only to lose it all the night it was revealed that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
Last decade it was “destroyed”
https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/21/these-are-a-few-more-of-my-least-favorite-things/ point 2
Where I’m from, “dragged” means to be removed against your will.
You know, like “the pitcher got dragged after the first inning”.
It’s a refreshing change of pace
Yeah, you know, like “Dragon Deez”
Who’s Deez?
What’s updog?
Does it in here to you?
Ligma Deez
hehe gottem
I feel like dragged predates slammed as slang but it definitely wasn’t popular headline material
So did bell bottom jeans but gen z thinks “they discovered” fashion
Ok boomer
thank you, daddy
I don’t think it’s really new. Just short for dragged through the mud. super old phrase + ellipsis
Implying he gives a shit. The thing about people who lack any empathy is they’re immune to embarrassment even when they’re the most embarrassing human on the planet.
This is nothing to do with “empathy” and everything to do with class…
And yet normie pleb can’t understand the concept of a class war while literally getting fucked in the ass, no lube of course because that’s socialism
I thought ml was leaking
Yeah I don’t know what their deal is. 90% of their comments are basically just “corpo bootlicker clown pleb 🤡” word salad with emoji dressing.
I’m surprised they haven’t been banned again. This is at least their 2nd account I’ve seen, and I think hopped instances at least once.
I was never been “banned” champ, whatever that means on fediverse.
kbin went down so i had to move to a new server to continue my work.
my work
Up your meds bro. Seriously.
There is a national shortage;)
Lol, you call that “work”, sick… but 🆗 , I guess
that’s like your opinion!
aint we all leaking?
But he runs a space program. Doesn’t he get credit for that?
If he keeled over dead SpaceX would keep functioning as it is held up by the actual employees who do the actual work. All a CEO does is provide goals, directions, and demands for more profits. They’re a glorified overpaid manager and those are not in short supply.
I think yr kinda pulling that out of your ass there. I think there’s more to it.
Sure a CEO does other shit. It’s all the same stuff a manager would do. You really think that if daddy Musk vanished the literal rocket scientists working there wouldn’t be able to keep doing their work? The trained accountants and managerial staff would curl up under their desks unable to carry on? The value of a CEO is both real, and extremely overstated. They’d have a new CEO before the end of the month.
In a nutshell, yes he runs the company. No it isn’t some badge of genius, he manages a company. Many other people are just as, if not more qualified.
Honestly a big credit to the people working there is just how many highly evaluated start ups of former SpaceX employees there are. Just a bunch a talented people given an opportunity to use it
Yes, he’s doing it. And all those other guys aren’t (in fact they look rather petty in comparison). So yes, I give him credit. Bigass credit.
Are you aware Elon bought the title of “founder of Tesla”?
He’s not invented jack shit. Dude’s a moron.
Are you saying other CEOs look petty? Or the actual employees and talent at SpaceX look petty?
Like what? I’m actually just curious.
Like he’s doing more to run it than you are suggesting.
You are fucking funny. Sure he has the time to run three corporations, raise his ten kids, and now be involved in the US government. Plus he spends an exorbitant amount of time on Twitter and doing drugs. Not to mention chasing his employees around trying to impregnate them.
What, in fact, does he actually do Infiniteasshole?
And you asked so nicely. How can I refuse?
Does the rich deserve credit for failing upward?
misinformation? just call it lies. reads easier and just as accurate.
Even more accurately: it’s bullshit.
“Lie” implies that the person knows the truth and is deliberately saying something that conflicts with it. However the sort of people who spread misinfo doesn’t really care about what’s true or false, they only care about what further reinforces their claims or not.
The ultra powerful see us as NPCs, and nothing more.
Your anger is barely a pop up window on the game they’re playing.
OK, but wow, even barely pop-up windows are still infuriating
I mean, tbf we kinda are. If they are willing to lie, cheat, steal etc., but meanwhile nobody is willing to oppose them, then we aren’t players in their set of strategic moves.
The only thing required for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing to stop it.
Yep, Muskrat is playing Frostpunk and completely ignores anything that doesn’t make him money.
Edit: Actually, not a very good comparison. Because in Frostpunk, you are actively fighting for your survival. Elon probably doesn’t even know what that means.
Do you cry when you step on an ant?
I’m not sure what’s worse…implying that 99% of humans are insects or that the 1% is better than the rest
In Texas, we call this lying… I don’t know when the goal post got moved but these parasites have always been lying to us the pedons.
Why do peasant accept or listen to these clowns? They are your enemy, treat them as such.
But now… pleb has his daddy who is good, and other pleb’s daddy is bad 🤡
“me daddy strong, me daddy kick ur daddy ass”
ADULT FUCKING PEOPLE IN 2024
I don’t know when the goal post got moved
January 22nd 2017. When Kellyanne Conway used the term “alternative facts”
I would say after ww2 after modern propaganda tactics went main stream across the world.
But it didn’t happen over night, it was a process to get us here.
And we have to ask ourselves WHY he’d want to spread misinformation. What is he trying to do?
Don’t contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
To that I’d say, “don’t attribute to ignorance what can easily be explained by greed”
What does greed have to do with spreading misinformation? Even the term itself implies ignorance. If it was intentional it would be called disinformation.
adequately explained.
The ignorance doesn’t explain where all the money comes from. So malice it is! Lol
We’re talking about spreading misinformation, which by definition implies ignorance. If it was intentional it would be called disinformation.
Misinformation is not defined by the knowledge of the one who spreads it (like if the spreader knows that it is wrong), it is therefore a useful word to use in journalism, since, if you would say it is lie or disinformation, you would have to be able to prove that or the victim of your text can sue you for misusing your credibility to spread misinformation (yea, funny irony here) and force you to take the story down.
Ah yes, Hanlon’s razor. Genuinely a great one to keep in mind at all times, along with it’s corollary Clarke’s law: “Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”
But in this particular case I think we need the much less frequently cited version by Douglas Hubbard: “Never attribute to malice or stupidity that which can be explained by moderately rational individuals following incentives in a complex system.”
I hate this saying because a large amount of the time it really is malice.
The saying works for day to day random bullshit. Not when a cocksucker buys a media outlet specifically to spread lies.
Chatbots can’t “admit” things. They regurgitate text that just happens to be information a lot of the time.
That said, the irony is iron clad.
Fed up with people who anthropomorphize statistical software
Fancy predictive text
Elon Mush: too rich to care.
ok ok, Mostly too rich to care, he’s pretty thin skinned.
Seriously though, when he was forced to complete the purchase of twitter, I thought he was just an idiot who couldn’t run a company. Over the years, I’ve come to believe that he’s an idiot who doesn’t care about anything but staying rich and none of the really stupid stuff he’s doing pushes the needle.
He’s still an idiot, but if it doesn’t break him, he just wants the attention and more opportunities to make more money.
This is an article about a tweet with a screenshot of an LLM prompt and response. This is rock fucking bottom content generation. Look I can do this too:
God, i love LLMs. (sarcasm)
They will say anything you tell them to and you can even lead them into saying shit without explicitly stating it.
They are not to be trusted.I tried it with your username and instance host and it thought it was an email address. When I corrected it, it said:
I couldn’t find any specific information linking the Lemmy account or instance host “Mac@mander.xyz” to the dissemination of misinformation. It’s possible that this account is associated with a private individual or organization not widely recognized in public records.
Right, because i told it to say that and left out the context. You can’t trust LLMs already and you must absolutely assume someone is lying or being disingenuous when all you have is a screenshot.
To add to this:
All LLMs absolutely have a sycophancy bias. It’s what the model is built to do. Even wildly unhinged local ones tend to ‘agree’ or hedge, generally speaking, if they have any instruction tuning.
Base models can be better in this respect, as their only goal is ostensibly “complete this paragraph” like a naive improv actor, but even thats kinda diminished now because so much ChatGPT is leaking into training data. And users aren’t exposed to base models unless they are local LLM nerds.
One of the reasons I love StarCoder, even for non-coding tasks. Trained only on Github means no “instruction finetuning” bullshit ChatGPT-speak.
People still run or even continue pretrain llama2 for that reason, as its data is pre-slop.
I really wish it were easier to fine-tune and run inference on GPT-J-6B as well… that was a gem of a base model for research purposes, and for a hot minute circa Dolly there were finally some signs it would become more feasible to run locally. But all the effort going into llama.cpp and GGUF kinda left GPT-J behind. GPT4All used to support it, I think, but last I checked the documentation had huge holes as to how exactly that’s done.
I don’t think Musk would disagree with that definition and I bet he even likes it.
The key word here is “significant”. That’s the part that clearly matters to him, based on his actions. I don’t care about the man and I don’t think he’s a genius, but he does not look stupid or delusional either.
Musk spreads disinformation very deliberately for the purpose of being significant. Just as his chatbot says.
Well then they will have to train their Ai with incorrect informations… politically incorrect, scientifically incorrect, etc… which renders the outputs useless.
Scientifically accurate and as close to the truth as possible never equals conservative talking points… because they are scientifically wrong.
It would be the same with liberal talking points and in general any human talking point.
Humans try to change the reality the way they want it, thus things they say are always incorrect. When they want to increase something, they make it appear less than IRL, usually. Also appearances are not universal.
Humans also simplify things acceptably for one subject, but not for another.
Humans also don’t know what “correct information” is.
A lot of philosophy connected to language starts mattering, when your main approach to “AI” is text extrapolation.
Math is correct without humans. Pi is the same in the whole universe. There are scientific truths. And then there are the the flat earth, 2x2=1, qanon anti vax chematrail loonies, which in different degrees and colour are mostly united under the conservative “anti science” folks.
And you want an Ai that doesn’t offend these folks / is taught based on their output. What use could that be of?
Ahem, well, there are obvious things - that 2x2 modulo 3 is 1, that some vaccines might be bad, that’s why farma industry regulations exist, that pi is also unknown p multiplied by unknown i or some number encoded as ‘pi’ string.
These all matter for language models, do they not?
And you want an Ai that doesn’t offend these folks / is taught based on their output. What use could that be of?
It is already taught on their output among other things.
But I personally don’t think this leads anywhere.
Somebody someplace decided it’s a genial idea to extrapolate text, because humans communicate their thoughts via text, so it’s something that can be used for machines.
Humans don’t just communicate.
Only because you are a layer does not conclude that all humans are egoistic layers. Of course there are a lot of them, but it is not a general human thing, it’s cultural and regional. Layers want you to believe that everyone is lying all the time, that makes their lives more easy. But feel free to not believe me 😇.
This doesn’t make any sense.
So you’re saying you lie to try and change reality or present it in a different way?
That’s horrible and I certainly don’t subscribe to this mentality. I will discuss things with people with an open mind and a willingness to change positions if presented with new information.
We are not arguing out of some tribal belief, we have our morals and we will constantly test them to try and be better humans for our fellow humans.
I think you hurt peoples feelings lmao.
The truth just isnt very catchy. Thanks for trying though. Im still on lemmy for people like you.
Thx, also the whole idea, I think, is presented better in Tao Te Ching.
Tell me more about how your theories of gay people being abominations are backed by science.
My theories?
I mean, this is an example. A liberal trying to start an argument with saying things that are false, but in his opinion will lead to something good.
Now do climate change!
You haven’t made any preposterous claims about my supposedly existing theories on climate change.
How about your science on how it’s actually good for children to starve at school if they are poor?
You don’t learn, do you?
He lies to assert power. In his company yesmen say yes because he pays their checks. To the rest of us he generally looks like a loon.
It’s obvious to a daft AI.
Damn thats hard. And Melon Husk will soon be the new Chef of Nasa!
Actually they made a new department of “Government Oversight” for him…
Which sounds scummy, but it’s basically ju8st a department that looks for places to cut the budget and reduce waste… not a bad idea, except it’s Right Wingers running it so “Food” would be an example of frivolous spending and “Planes that don’t fly” would be what they’re looking to keep the cash flowing on
That sounds almost worse .__. At least with Musk behind the desk.
With Musk what he’d see as wasteful is… anything that isn’t his fucking kickbacks or programs that make his ex-wife start returning his calls.
Which ex-wife exactly? There are just too many…
Why is saying bad stuff on twitter more important than sending rockets into space?
