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Most major subreddits show a decrease of between 50 and 90 percent in average daily posts and comments, when compared to a year ago. This suggests the problem is way fewer users, not the same number of users browsing less. The huge and universal dropoff also suggests that people left, either because of the changes or the protests, and they aren’t coming back.
I migrated entirely to Lemmy and I don’t regret it. I do miss the amount of content on Reddit, but at least I know I’m not supporting them anymore.
14 year redditor and I go back and forth (only for 2 subreddits) but majority of reddit, including the news portions are completely dead. RIP r/pbsnews. I vow not to comment or submit any new links for them.
Same. I will say though, my phone usage overall has gone wayyyyy down. So. Thanks, Reddit?
I do a lot more reading books when I want stimulation now. I still browse lemmy if I’ve only got a few minutes, like waiting for a build to finish in Visual Studio, but I’ll grab my ereader for anything longer than that.
Yeah, I spend half as much time just endlessly scrolling anymore. Phone use is down and the time I spend on my PC feels more productive too.
I moved the Reddit content I wanted into an RSS feed by putting the subreddit URL followed by /.rss into the feed URL and it works
I never knew this. I tried with https://www.reddit.com/r/watercolour/.rss as a test. I can the the images are in the feed. But, my readers are not showing them. Do you have any suggestions on getting image previews to work?
I’m not real sure what the issue is but I can confirm that’s the same URL format that I use. I use Feeder on Android if that helps
that’s what I use yes. Do you get images for that URL? If you don’t mind a quick check? Then at least I can dig into feeder.
Huh. Yeah I’m not getting them either, and after looking into my other feeds that do have images it looks like those are either video preview images or links to articles, so I guess it doesn’t support native reddit image uploads maybe?
thanks for testing, I do appreciate that. Thats a shame, but it is what it is.
Ditto. Lemmy could see more content, but the current amount is enough to keep me entertained.
Frankly the only two situations nowadays when I open Reddit is 1) cross-checking stuff posted in this comm, and 2) copypasting stuff from Reddit to Lemmy to avoid giving it more pageviews.
Lemmy can feel slow at times but the byproduct is that I find myself searching for new communities, not just replacements for my old reddit favorites.
Because the most active contributing users left. I used to comment a lot on reddit, but I’ve been exclusively on Lemmy since my 3rd party app was axed.
And I’ve been very active here. Like, even on this alt account that I made 16 days ago, my app says my post “karma” is already higher than my reddit comment karma was from over a decade.
I feel more willing to contribute because there’s a sense of community, and I’m not just providing free entertainment for a company to profit off of.
I’ve commented more on lemmy in 3 months than the last 10 years on Reddit
Shit. I think it took me 5 years on reddit to comment once. Now I have alts! Alts!
Glad you’re here, nutbiggums!
Between you and @RandalThor must cover 50% of stuff I see
I’ve been having fun doing it. I just post a few memes throughout the day whenever I think about it, and I also try to spread it out among some smaller communities that I want to help grow.
So, memes and a handful of communities that I’m personally interested in.
I feel like I see you a lot, too. I don’t remember where, but it’s probably because I always notice the great username :)
There are five lights.
Awwww :)
There’s another Rand? I must meet this man over at Wheeloftime!
I win again, Lews Therin.
Hell yeah another place to subscribe to!! Thanks for linking it
I used to comment a lot on reddit
Same. I had a 15 year account with a couple hundred thousand karma and commented and posted a lot. If you piss off the people who actually use the site you will reap what you sow. Reddit should have known that since the exact scenario happened fir Digg when everyone migrated to reddit.
They looked at the leaves, and failed to see the forest, thinking that simply not killing old.reddit was enough to avoid Digg-ing the grave. Because from their view that’s how Digg died - v4 happened, users couldn’t go back, they got pissy, and they left.
@megane_kun@lemm.ee is also right when he says that they compared Reddit with other social media platforms and took the wrong conclusions. What keeps people in Facebook aren’t “content creators” or what have you, but their relatives and friends; in Reddit there’s no such thing, people weren’t there because of more people but because of the content that those people created, so their connection with the platform is considerably weaker.
I also think that the trust thermocline played a role. It wasn’t the first time that the platform pissed its own users.
Agreed on the reasons why FB stayed relatively strong despite its reputation going down the drain. What kept many people from leaving FB for good is actually network effects: that one’s friends and family, coworkers and colleagues, are more likely to be in FB than not in it. Huffman’s site? Not so much. I don’t care if someone I know IRL is in it, and I sure as hell wouldn’t want them to know I used it.
The platform formerly known as Twitter is a more apt comparison, to be honest, but it’s still way too early to tell if it has actually weathered the storm, or has become so rotten on the inside that it’d spectacularly fail in the near future.
Perhaps Twitter is a third can of worms, it’s neither about content (as Reddit) nor the users’ social circles (as FB), more like a few anchor people keeping the others there. Due to that Musk’s idea (to pay creators to stay there) might actually help.
I still think that it’ll fail due to other decisions Musk took, but less spectacularly than Reddit. Musk is at least trying to think by himself, Spez is simply following others.
I think Steve Huffman is only after the possible profits he’d make on the IPO. He doesn’t care if his reputation would be sullied amongst the proles like us, nor does he care if he’s being original and ground-breaking. He just cares about the money.
Will it work though? I want to bet on the possibility that his IPO will fail due to all the bad news about his site as of recent, but given that the world in general has been disappointing recently, I’ll just keep my money to myself, lol!
He is after the IPO money but Dunning-Kruger is the hell of a drug, Spez is simply not a good CEO and he doesn’t know how to maximise pre-IPO numbers. So odds are that he thought “who’s in the same situation as me? Ah, The Iron Man¹! He’s a cool guy, has lots of money and a platform like mine. I assume that he knows what he is doing², so I’ll ape what he did!”. Musk killed 3PAs and got rid of the people criticising his platform, so did Spez.
And killing 3PAs pre-IPO does actually have some merit. They created value³ for Reddit, but detracted from the immediate profit; but if you’re selling the company you don’t care about the value, you care about the immediate profit to show your potential buyers “see? This company is profitable, gib lotsa moni”. However odds are that things happened faster than Spez predicted, odds are that he assumed that the protests would last a bit and die, not that people would say “enough of this shit”. And now odds are that he lost that “magical” window of opportunity to maximise Reddit’s price to the potential new buyers.
- I cringed writing this.
- Spoilers: Musk does not know what he’s doing.
- By “value” here I mean the potential of a company to generate profit over time.
Hahahaha~ If it’s any consolation to you, I also cringed reading the part that made you cringe while writing it. More than enough cringe for all of us to share around!
Yeah, you actually said out loud what I was just thinking to myself when I wrote my previous reply. Not exactly what you wrote, but I was thinking that if it worked for others, it’s good enough for himself. Why think of a good idea when you can just copy others’? Something along those lines. However, copying ideas actually does take some work as well. It’s not enough to just copy what they did and apply it to your situation. You’ve also got to think about whether or not what you’re copying is a good fit for your circumstances.
About the third point though, the way I see it is that Huffman tried his best (the key word is ‘tried’) to increase the profitability of his site to entice potential buyers, which even though it’d detract from immediate profitability, would add to the money he’d cash out at the IPO in the end—or so he imagines. Agreed with how things didn’t happen according to how Steve anticipated them though. And in fairness to Huffman, other flareups have ended in a similar way. What he didn’t anticipate is how these changes (the API changes) will affect how a lot of people (and the ones that contribute a lot of content) would interact with his site. So, yeah!
I’m always happy to see a Teft post pop up in my feed.
Wow I was on there longer than you and I don’t think I broke 10k haha
I know the ways of karma farming. It ain’t much but it’s an honest living.
It’s easy to argue why they thought it’s not going to happen to them. They saw Facebook shrug off all of its scandals, and thought that being in a similar position, network effects are going to help them weather any storm. And it can be argued that Steve Huffman and his site did weather this particular storm. But like Facebook, trust in Huffman’s site have taken a blow, and in the demographic that they would ill afford to antagonize.
That we’re starting to see its effects as early as now should scare any sane person in Huffman Inc.
I had over 300k comment karma, on the site every single day for about 10 years. Comparing the comments here vs there it’s crazy I hung around so long. It’s like getting out of an abusive relationship, you don’t realize how much you’re being mistreated until you’re out from under them.
Same. Thing is, I would usually get gold like once or twice a month. I would post well sourced, long and often highly upvoted comments. Try to be genuinely helpful or insightful. I used to be a journalist, it was an outlet for me.
Not that they were that great, redditers upvoting stuff doesn’t make a comment right or interesting, and wasting too much time there was really not something to be proud of, but if just ten thousand users like you and me quit reddit, that leaves mainly teenagers, bots and ‘comedians’ rehashing the same tired puns.
It can effectively kill smaller subreddits, as has quite obviously happened in some cases.
We weren’t just customers, we also produced a disproportionate amount of the content on reddit. More than our relatively small numbers would suggest. IRC the 1% rule states that only 1% of users actively post/comment. If you’re posting relatively coherent or thought out comments, you’re the 1% of that 1%.
Yeah. Lemmy users aren’t saints but there’s a lot more friendly, cool and deep discussion than on Reddit. In the last year before I left, I had felt it’s gone so shallow.
I’ve definitely seen you around a lot lately. 😁 Thanks for the joy and memes.
I was never famous on Reddit but I was a prolific commenter for six years. I gradually phased out from Reddit as I got into Lemmy until July, when I pledged not to comment or vote on Reddit ever again. I’ve since kept my word.
Thanks!
And yeah, I’ve checked reddit a few times for niche things, but it would just feel dirty to contribute there now.
how do you know how much karma you have in total?
For Lemmy?
Some apps add it up for you. One of the apps I use frequently is Voyager (on Android), and it shows it on the profile page.
For example, here’s yours: (I assume I can’t see 100% of the votes though, in case your instance is federated with any that mine’s not"
I wrote an extension for firefox that shows your collective karma so I was wondering if you were using it, this is cool as well
Oh that’s cool. I may have to check that out on desktop.
I’m going to update it to show youe comment/post karma separately when I get my computer fixed
Well definitely make a post when you do! I bet a lot of people would be interested in it.
I made a post, they hated it man 😭 I got like the same number of downvotes as upvotes
I’ve been very active here
I’ve noticed your posts almost every day and appreciate them
Thank you, 🍝
You’re not alone. Just check https://subredditstats.com/r/technology or any other sub you used to visit and you’ll see a clear drop in comments/day. After the APIcalypse, so many people just left and never came back.
I feel like this is by design. Reddit never wanted to be a discussion board. It wants users to keep scrolling so they see more ads.
Oh, that is a good point actually. However, drop in comments is probably also associated with a drop in quality posts and the number of people who upvote them.
Wow, this is really interesting! I checked a few, and you can see a severe drop in activity.
Every sub I cheked got totally nuked to oblivion. No wonder why people are complaining about the quality. Hardly anyone is there to comment or vote.
I opened reddit on desktop yesterday for the first time in a while, and I had received a survey from the Admins.
I’ve never received something like that before. The questions made it seem like they’re trying to figure out why people are unhappy.
Sounds like an easy question. RIP RIF (and all the other apps), therefore Reddit is nolonger fun.
Yeah I already seem to be somewhere among the 1% top posters on Lemmy and I bet users like me were much more valuable to reddit than 10 lurkers. I’m sure a relatively tiny fraction of the users created 90% of the content on reddit and those most likely are also the people most annoyed by the death of 3rd party apps and I’m sure there’s a ton of others like me who switched. That’ll definitely show in the activity even though it might not be much in absolute numbers.
No offense I thought you were a bot given how often I see your username haha. Good on you! You are helping to make this a better place
Beep boop, I like sharing memes
(Thanks!)
I never thought it would be so easy to stop going on Reddit, but this place is good enough
good enough
IMO the users here are way more pleasant to spend time with than those on Reddit. The level of hostility in some areas of Reddit was off the charts and it seems the trolls are staying put. This definitely /mademesmile.
I really avoided unpleasant subreddits. There were many smaller subreddits that were genuinely fun to be in. I miss those communities here. One that comes to mind is r/gintama. That sub was a great source of joy for me. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find one here.
If you build it they will come…
Can you create your own?
Sadly there isn’t even a Christianity community on here :(
Also miss stupid stuff like waxsealing, heraldry, spicypillows
Be the change you want to see and create that community.
There is a bit of a hiccup with hexbear and lemmygrad but besides that, I feel it’s a very welcoming place here
Yeah I’ve had some really good conversations here, I had a lot of great little friend groups on Reddit over the years but being here made me realise I haven’t had a really good chat with someone that I genuinely enjoy talking to on there for about five years. I’d honestly just assumed it was me but here I’ve had so many great conversations, I don’t know why but possibly it’s that the good interesting people aren’t drowned out and beaten down by a sea of hostility.
Eh, many brought their reddit habits over here
My blocklist grew daily for about a week, and now my lemmy experience has improved drastically.
Still traces of the good ol’ toxic reddit spirit
I thought that CrunchyJamCreator name sounded familiar. Seems to be one of the 130 accounts I’ve blocked already.
I honestly feel like the only way to have a nice social media experience is by strictly curating your feed. You can’t pay attention to everything anyways so by cutting out the trash you vastly improve the signal to noise ratio. If I see someone posting a stupid comment I open their profile and quickly go thru it to see if they’re posting anything of a value. If not I block them and move on.
You are literally a fascist!
(Am I doing this right?)
Blocked 🚫
Oh, that reminds me the discussion I had with two nationalists here in Lemmy. Apparently, unless I pretend that fermented and then distilled sugar cane is “magically” different depending country, I’m assumed to be from a nearby country. The whole thing sounded a lot like “gravity doesn’t work on Fridays, and if you say that it does I’m going to pretend that I’m an illiterate and not read it”, i.e. typical Reddit lack of character/rationality/decency.
I’m saying this because I’ve found this behaviour usually peaks when there’s a large-ish influx of Redditfugees, then it tones down. So it’s likely most the result of recent immigrants; I think that the most obnoxious/Reddit-like ones will end back in Reddit, while the others will learn to not behave like morons.
Rum can be very different regarding the nation is comes from because the various Rhum Agricoles are not made the same way Jamaican rum is made and that is due to laws surrounding production.
For example in Martinique all sugar cane is cut once and then the field is burned and replanted. This means the cane has less wood to it and as a result less wood sugar. In addition you cannot add sugar back into Rhum Agricole to cover faults like you can in most nations.
There can be very distinct differences but those are entirely due to laws and traditions. There is no notion of terroir, that is that the climate and soil provide unique elements, in sugar cane.
You are using arguments. The two nationalists in question weren’t; they were simply “chrust me” and then “lalala I’m not listening this contradicts my nationalism lalala”. And more importantly because they wanted to claim that you’d spoil a drink by using the wrong type of rum. (As if the sort of rum that you’d use to make drinks wasn’t the simplest and most “samey” available - it’s a waste to make a drink with the more iconic stuff.)
That’s because Im an American with no skin in the game and I have sold booze in some fashion for decades.
Lots of people have weirdly nationalistic ideas with booze.
I only dislike the quantity of anti musk/anti reddit posts
Good enough, that’s our motto.
We have a saying im German that encapsulates that notion: Ein gutes Pferd springt nur so hoch, wie es muss (A good horse only jumps as high as it has to.)
🤣
We’re a pretty darn good minor league baseball team if you ask me
Agreed, and it seems to be evolving over time.
Only thing I miss from reddit is the r/SamHarris subreddit. It was pretty much the only place on the internet, that I know of, where one could have serious, intellectually honest discussions and disagreements.
I like Lemmy but the content here is, for the most part, focused on certain popular topics and even though there’s still a lot to discuss there the issue is that people have quite strong opinions and generally aren’t willing to entertain alternative views on those subjects but rather have already made their mind and the replies are generally based on emotions but not always facts.
I would probably still post on reddit if I could do it from my phone in an app that actually works instead of being a glorified ad platform. They killed 3rd party apps to bully users to switch to the official app to boost the usage stats to have a better angle to haggle for their IPO. Problem is that the official app is just excruciatingly painful to use if you are accustomed to a proper reddit browsing tool.
The backhanded, sneaky way they did it with all the denial and lies was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Instead of being upfront and calling a spade a spade, they commited to a hostile takeover and removed all doubt that reddit is going to stay a platform for the people.
If they would have been honest from the get-go I might have continued posting.
I feel like spez just wildly overestimated the level of love/addiction the average user has for Reddit.
Clearly he figured that people were so attached to the platform that they could be coerced into using the official app.
In a beautiful miscalculation, it appears that many, many users would rather just leave entirely than to use it.
The app which, by the way, they also bought out (somewhat forcibly if I am remembering correctly) from a third party then ran it into the ground.
Couldn’t have said it better.
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Yeah I went to subredditstats.com and checked out a few of the subreddits with a lot of subscribers. They all show a huge drop both in number of comments and number of posts per day. This is the first time I saw some hard evidence that people have moved away, and it’s a lot more than I thought.
It looks like a lot more people left Reddit than joined Lemmy or the other Reddit alternatives. I reckon most people who left didn’t actually seek out an alternative and are just spending more time on Facebook/Tiktok/forum sites etc. Or they might be being productive with the time that they would’ve otherwise spent on Reddit lol.
Where did they go?
Outside to touch some grass. Or replaced it with another vice like lemmy. :)
I never participated on Reddit, but I used it to check in on tech stuff and other various interests. I didn’t spend a lotta time on it, but it was definitely the platform that I spent time on the most.
When all the third-party stuff started happening, I decided to take the principled stand and quit using it, but I was worried it was gonna be difficult.
I was wrong. It was super easy ditching it.
Even though it was the “social” platform I was spending the most time on, it also felt like the easiest to replace—mostly because that content could be found elsewhere. This kinda made me realize that Reddit doesn’t have a moat, and it confirmed what I knew all along—the value of the platform is derived from its users. So when there’s enough collective will to do something (in this case, fight against network effects), it’s incredibly powerful.
So I used this free tool I built called Reddit Account Manager to gather all my subscriptions, bookmarks, etc., and then Power Delete Suite to delete all my accounts.
I noticed that my time spent online in general had also decreased.
10/10 would recommend.
Regarding Power Delete Suite, this fork (from deestan) is recommended over j0be’s (the one that you linked), if you’re editing the content before/instead of removing it. That’s because Reddit added a timer between comment editions (to be fair spammers were using it).
Nice, thanks for sharing.
Unless it’s changed PDS only grabs comments from your profile. But with a little know how you can delete EVERYTHING using your data-export as a map to all your comments.
Eg. Google NightAuthor site:Reddit.com There are a few listings but none of the content is actually live anymore.
I missed browsing reddit for about a week after almost a decade of using it multiple times a day. They made the decision to leave very easy for me with how they handled the protests.
This might make some people mad, but I’m actually glad they didn’t change anything. I don’t like the enshittification of things, but I do like that the worse things get, the more motivated people are to organize, move, and enact change (like migrating to the Fediverse).
Unfortunately, things often have to get much worse before they get better. Humans have a tendency to do that, oftentimes when it’s too late. Of course with some things, it matters more than others.
I’ve found there are still useful chunks of information on niche topics I follow only found on Reddit. I’ll poke in see what I need to and drop out. No browsing, no posting, upvotes or account logins.
I’ve got more time for other things since ditching reddit, Lemmy is cool and all but I’ve lost that itch. The memes are pretty stale here and the communities I can browse every couple of days and keep up-to-date.
Overall it’s been a good change for me, thanks reddit for shooting yourselves in the foot.
Well, they did say that about only the 10% of users were the ones who make comments and engage with the communities, and guess what, that 10% did use more likely than not, the third party apps. I’ve been a redditor for more than 16 years with a lot of karma, I deleted all my accounts but one, the oldest I had. I’ve been back for a couple of niche communities but I haven’t commented nor upvoted anything.
Another factor that they probably didn’t consider is that those 10% were, on average, more informed about what was happening and what happened in the past (see spoiler for examples). So for a lot of those people in the 10%, even if they didn’t use the 3PAs (I predict that a lot of them were desktop users), it was the straw breaking the camel’s back - I bet that some people felt outright disgusted for contributing with the profits of a disgusting company like Reddit Inc.
List of examples:
- A Reddit admin defending a paedophile. People being banned left and right for highlighting this.
- The above showing that Reddit has tools to prevent harassment, but won’t use them to protect users.
- The whole “we’ll quarantine TD to shut protesters up, but we still want its posters to feel at home here, so we won’t ban the sub until it’s inactive”.
- Spoiling the “Reddit silver” joke for profit.
- Using Ellen Pao as a scapegoat.
- Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, it’s almost like Reddit Inc. says “Reddit users are those stupid things, of course if you throw any bullshit on their snouts they’ll happily swallow it”. Every fucking announcement smelled like bullshit, specially coming from that sociopath called Steve Huffman.
How was Ellen Pao a scapegoat? It’s been a while. Ive been a 13 year redditor somibr pretty much seen everything including the Pao bullshit but I don’t recall her being a scapegoat so much as her saying a lot of stupid stuff.
Then again, it’s been a while
Here’s a link for further info. Accordingly to the previous CEO (Yishan Wong), u/kn0thing forced Pao to fire the communication director Victoria Taylor, also known as the person who organised the AMAs (a big deal for Reddit back then, and largely responsible for its popularity). u/kn0thing eventually admitted to be responsible for firing Taylor, but Pao was the one that took the userbase’s backslash.
And while this is conjecture, I’m led to believe that she was also a scapegoat on creating the precedent for banning subreddits. The userbase hated her, as that was seen as “going too far”, and yet this would become necessary as the site grew (and the subreddits in question were harassing people IRL). Then the following CEO (Huffman) would use and abuse subreddit bans, but since the precedent was already there, users didn’t blame him for that.
Accordingly to the previous CEO (Yishan Wong), u/kn0thing forced Pao to fire the communication director Victoria Taylor
TIL!
I remember the Victoria debacle. Seriously WHY did they fire her anyway? Its like… “Here we have liquid gold… Lets throw it in the trash!” but I thought that Pao was responsible for that, yeah.
I haven’t used app and accessed via browser. Reason why i left was arrogance of the management and it help me realize that reddit became time-waster for me. Quality of discussion was often poor, softly said.
I kept my ancient account as well, but I did remove all my posts and comments.
Lurking is fine. It just uses their server resources and doesn’t give them much value
They live of ads so they benefit from lurking as well.
It’s easier to quit now that all the good posters have already quit.
So far lemmy sucks for video game news.
So start posting links to video game news. That’s the whole point
It sucks for Arduino and electronics stuff too, but we are early (I hope.)
It also sucks for game development community too. I’ve been thinking of going back to Reddit. Lemmy is neat but the community is mainly Linux users who seem to purposely miss the point of a lot of things. Specially if you aren’t making it using open source software.
Which is unfortunate since we had both a Nintendo Direct and a State of Play today.
We did?
Yes sir. Nothing groundbreaking beyond ff7 rebirth imo though from both.
Helldiver looks interesting. Mario paper and super mario Rpg got me excited. Definitely didn’t expect takes of arise got a story dlc.
Ah, yeah TTYD and RPG are also big ones but I’ve beaten both so many times they don’t really register on my scale. Helldivers I’m cautiously optimistic as I played the first one a lot but this one is far different from the looks of it.
Personally, I’m very interested in Unicorn Overlord. After having played both 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (one of my favorite games of all time) and Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, I’m very excited to see what Vanillaware has in store for us next. I didn’t expect to hear from them so soon since they’re such a small company (only 29 people).
I haven’t played their stuff so I suppose it’s one of those don’t know what you don’t know kinda things. I suppose my initial judgement is a bit harsh though.
13 Sentinels is their most recent release. It just recently sold its one millionth copy. It’s a sci-fi game. It’s one of those games where you should go in as blind as possible, but I will say it’s legitimately one of the best stories I have ever played, and it works in such a way that it’d be impossible to adapt to any other medium. It’s, at the very least, in my top two of not my number one favorite game.
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir is a PS4 remake of their Odin Sphere game (originally released on the PS2) with new content, new gameplay mechanics, and updated graphics. The remake also includes a port of the original game for free. It’s a fantasy game that blends a bunch of mythology (primarily Norse mythology) together into its own story. Its gameplay style is a side-scrolling beat 'em up with RPG elements.
Both games are directed by George Kamitani, the studio’s CEO.
The studio also made Muramasa: The Demon Blade and Dragon’s Crown, but I haven’t played either of those yet.
The completely unblockable hegetsus ads were really what made me switch to Apollo from the official Reddit app. Then killing third party apps made me leave for good. Bravo, Reddit
I totally forgot about hegetsus until now.
We were having a good day.
We were ALL having a good day.
They could have done so much. Force third party apps to use their ads or make a reddit premium subscription. Instead they decided to destroy all their free labor.
They didn’t have to force them, third party devs asked them to let them use their ads and Reddit told them no!
There was an appropriate balance of API fees, returning adds in the API calls, and charging subscription fees to remove ads that would have generated maximum profit by milking the ecosystem from multiple places without ever pissing off users bad enough to make them leave. Complain? Oh sure, users would have done that plenty. On reddit. Where it made reddit monet. Reddit instead elected to simply shit the bed.
That’s called idiocy
See, he does get us…
hegetsus
Heget
Those ads were pretty based tbh
What were the ads about?
They were just religious ads, that would say things like Jesus loved his neighbors #hegetsus. The biggest complaint I saw about them was at some point, that was literally the only ad you would see on reddit.
Tbh I think the vast majority of people that use these sites are just there to mindlessly scroll. I do imagine a lot of their reactions to the protests was to be pissed at the weird basement dwellers disrupting their porn/aww/etc feeds
More than anything, the fact that Reddit absolutely quadruple-downed on steering people to their garbage app at the same time probably drove a lot of that crowd away. I regard it like
TwitterX now: just another rotting, closed-off corporate theme park - and I refuse to believe any content I hit a login wall after getting linked to is important enough to deal with their shit.be pissed at the weird basement dwellers disrupting their porn/aww/etc feeds
LOL - I think this is a very apt description. For every person that has left, there are a dozen more like this. Couldn’t care less that 4 of the 5 top posts are reposted tiktok videos.
Whatever you do, don’t go back, as it’s only the dregs of society left there. Honestly, it’s horrible on there now. I permanently left it yesterday.
I “go back” for some of the writers I follow that still post their work to reddit. Even the subs they post in are a shadow of what they were, and browsing “all” is depressing
So how much of the use today is from bots? I imagine that percent went significantly up.
I used to use reddit every day for prob a half hour per day. Now i get on reddit for 2 minutes once a week to copy a podcast announcement to /c/monero@monero.town and thats it. All my reddit usage went to lemmy.
That is THE WAY
Content creators left.
You lose those, you’re fucked. A full fckin 80-90% of any given user base are consumers / commenters and they follow content. Creators are a keystone species.
Yeah. Reddit seemed to view users like every other social media app without realizing that a lot of the successful apps compensate those who add value to the app.
The official app seems ok for consuming content, but it was dogshit for meaningful interaction.
