Surely nothing will go wrong with THIS corporate owned walled garden.
How any times do they have to learn the same lesson?
Technically it’s an open protocol. Whether or not any other implementations will surface remains to be seen.
Leaving one privately run garden for another sure seems like a choice 🤔
It’s built to be decentralized though, from what I read.
Mastodon: Am I a joke to you?
I wasn’t a fan of the format. (and apparently I’m not allowed to have an opinion on format)
I value your opinion. What do you mean by format? Couldn’t you just use a different UI?
It’s kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn’t really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything.
The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.)
You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don’t want to see.
Caveat: I don’t spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead.
Isn’t the format literally just Twitter?
It’s centralized. They allow federation using their own protocol.
But all you need to know is that it’s a capitalist, for-profit undertaking.
I know a much better place. It is called mastodon.
Just pointing out the author mentions they used mastodon for a time too, their argument is that bluesky interface, content and moderation are better for them.
That mindset is the problem. A slightly better UX at the cost of freedom is a bad deal.
They keep building up these companies with shiti core principles then pika face when corpos do them dirty 🤡
UX matters.
If open source software genuinely wants to be an option for normal people, they need to fix their shit.
It’s a little more than a slightly better UX. Dismissing the entire concept of the instance removes a fair amount of complexity and fragmentation from the equation. There are so many cheerful guides out there about how to select an instance and every single one of them loses 95% of normal people in the first paragraph.
Having a signup model that people understand helps. Concentrating everything in one schema creates a noticeable increase in density of relevant content. Having corporate money for real hosting and security counts. When you fediverse instance goes down to DDOS or implements crippling safeguards because they can’t keep up with the spam, you really feel how the whole thing is run on a shoestring.
I will give bluesky credit for their focus on moderation. Hopefully some of that design is cloned by the Mastodon folks sooner than later
I will give bluesky credit for their focus on moderation.
Watch that focus disappear once the enshittification phase starts.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of the microblog format, but I’m pretty sure everyone here is going to agree that Mastodon is the superior Twitter replacement.
Nope. Not at all. I very much prefer BlueSky as far as Twitter replacement goes.
Interesting. Ugh, I feel the need to go peek at it now, but I also expect to really not like it. Oh well, here goes.
yep, people that loved walled gardens like twitter will absolutely love bluesky
I don’t think I get what you mean when you say “Walled Garden” in this context. Can you elaborate?
just another corporate managed behemoth. their interfaces are slick, but the federation lacking
Now ditch that for mastodon
Mastodon is much better for that
His profile is sign-in blocked.
“Public square” indeed.
There is another alternative to twitter
Its pretty unknown, especially on lemmy, so i dont think many people heard of it, its on something called “the fediverse” and is called “mastodon”
Another idea: ditch Twitter and learn to play the ukulele instead
The one drawback to Bluesky’s block feature is that a user’s block lists aren’t private. Through third party apps, you can find lists of everyone anyone’s blocked. That probably won’t bother most people, but it’s a potential issue for those who worry that public block lists could be used perniciously by persistent stalkers or harassers.
The only missing function is the ability to lock your account or go private as you can on Twitter, which would let you hide your account from non-followers while still posting to folks who already follow you.
But Bluesky has gotten considerable criticism at key points over the last year and a half for failures in handling anti-Black racism in particular. Rudy Fraser wrote extensively about some of these issues along with a deep dive into his goals and challenges as the creator of the now legendary Blacksky feed in a great post a year ago.
Every time someone recommends me Bluesky, I learn something else about it that makes me never want to make an account. Any one of these three quotes should be a dealbreaker on their own
My experience with BlueSky has been that it is better than Twitter because it is smaller and doesn’t cater to the far-right.
BUT…
It can become extremely toxic very fast because they implemented the same poorly executed features Twitter did that fucked things up. In fact, it’s way worse than that…
The two features they copied from Twitter that hurt them the most are site-wide search and quote posts. Site-wide search enables people to “namesearch” or to monitor keywords for issues they want to fight about. Quote posts are a well understood “dunk mechanism”, that largely encourages dogpiling.
As for being free of a central algorithm, that seems good, until you see that there are tons of community algorithms you can subscribe to instead. Now there are algorithms for things like “anti-Zionist posts” and “pro-Israel posts”, which not only let people find their preferred echo-chamber, but also provide trolls access to exactly the groups of people they want to argue with or harass.
These algorithms can be built to detect certain hashtags and phrases, or they can just be big lists of accounts like a Twitter group. There’s no telling when you might show up in one of these algorithms or why.
As a result, if you say anything less than agreeable about any issue, there’s a chance you’re going to hear from a bunch of accounts you’ve never met before, regardless of what side of an issue you are on, or how extreme your view actually is.
I don’t recommend it. It’s a pro-profit company that seeks to be a wholesale replacement for Twitter. AT Proto federation is a complete joke, it’ll never expand if it doesn’t have a flagship open source server. They’ll give up on it just like Twitter did and just be another centralized, toxic, microblogging community.
Thanks, this was helpful! Sounds like I’ll pass on Bluesky!
The fucking lack of site wide search is why I hate these federated services. Such a glaringly missing feature.
Yeah it really makes Mastodon unusable as the “one big forum” that twitter was and bluesky is trying to be.
I’d rather have a smaller but somewhat predictable group of peers I grow to somewhat respect and trust than being confronted by thousands of random strangers that are there for mere “engagemen” but not for helping each other out or saying nice things.
Idk man if you’re talking about Lemmy there’s not much respect going on in here, alot of comments get disappeared. It’s like the mods are on cocaine constantly sometimes.
I got accused of being transphobic and banned from an instance because I said that hate towards trans people is a dead cat argument. I forgot that America literally wants to kill trans people my bad.
If you think that by “toxicity” I am referring to moderators protecting their communities, you are sorely mistaken. That’s a feature, not a bug.
I got accused of being transphobic and banned from an instance because I said that hate towards trans people is a dead cat argument.
Good, you showed up in a trans-inclusive space and used right-wing jargon (coined by Boris fucking Johnson) that dismisses their testimony on their own lived experiences as being “shocking” and a “distraction”, when they know full well that their rights and their lives are on the line. Sorry you didn’t get a chance to correct the record on the fact that you were ignorant on the severity of the issue, but if you’re still publicly complaining about being banned on other uninvolved instances, I’d say that they made the right move.
Bluesky is also about as dead as tumblr
I barely see anyone interacting with anything, or anyone for that matter
How about, no
