I don’t think you should be using it anymore if it’s getting hot enough to cook a pizza…
cooked perfectly !
You knew when you took the picture with the pizza that most of the comments would be about the pizza didn’t you?
Also, if you place it over a vent, does it double as a pizza keeper warmer?
Kinda, but I cooked the pizza, it was there when I wanted to post something about the server, so I couldn’t resist ahah
TO be a good Pizza keeper warmer, I’d definitely have to remove the 12 fans inside
It really ties the room together
Avoid hardware RAID (have a look at this). Use Linux MD or BTRFS or ZFS.
It’s a 2004 server, you can’t do anything else but HW RAID on this. also, it’s using UltraSCSI (and you should not use that in 2024 either ahah)
SCSI was creme de la creme ages ago! Is it not a matter of going in its BIOS, configure the hardware RAID (go for mirror only!?), endure the noise it probably makes, and install ? :)
Indeed! I have a lot of SCSI disks, PCI cards and a few cables too! (also, SCSI is fun to pronounce… SKEUZY) but on this server, the RAID card doesn’t have any option to create a RAID in its BIOS, from what I can tell it needs a special software and I can’t find good tutorials or documentation out there :(
You can find the 7.12.x support CD for that controller at https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-serveraid-software-matrix. I’m pretty sure that server model did not support USB booting so you’ll need to burn that to a disc. This will be the disc to boot off of to create your array(s).
I forget if the support CD had the application you would install in Windows to manage things after installation or not, or if that’s only on the application CD. Either way you’ll find several downloads for various OS drivers and the applications from that matrix.
Thanks for the link! I’ll definitely need to try this… I have a few CDs laying around, I’ll burn one!
my scsi controller needs to be entered during boot to manage raid. it also has an external battery that needed replacing (which cost more new than just buying a new card … with the exact same battery) so if you’re not in verbose boot mode figure that out and see if the controller is telling you which function key it needs.
figuring out this old stuff is most of the fun in running it, I would sell it as scrap before actually hosting anything on it.
Yeah I already have the key combo to enter the RAID card BIOS, CTRL + i
And yeah I won’t be hosting anything on it obviously, I just love old hardware and trying to push them tp their limit!
I did not know that
Well, you could make each disk its own RAID 0 array. There would probably be performance overhead compared to just using the hardware RAID though.
What’s on the pizza?
Air, mostly!
(but also merguez and pepper)
You should replace that thing with something more modern. I had a 5000p chipset system someone gave me with dual quad cores and an assload of ram.
The shitty box idled over 400W. I went as far as getting low power ram and the newest CPU it would support that also supported frequency and power scaling and it still used over 400W on idle.
This while I had a Xeon E5 box that was only a few years younger that uses more in the neighborhood of 50W on idle and utterly decimates the 5000 series box in CPU performance.
You’re probably better of fetching some old Ryzen 1800x system of ebay for higher performance and leagues lower power consumption.
As for the raid, don’t use it. Hardware raid has always been shit and in modern Linux and Windows is as good as completely depricated.
You’re missing the point, it’s not about using old hardware to daily drive them here, it’s for the fun and thrill of discovering ancient hardware, software and technologies! I’ll definitly need to see how much power this one is taking tho, but with only 1 out of 2 CPU I’d say around 200W for something this old
I have a HP Proliant DL380G7, basically the last server with a front side bus, and all the comments about it where about power per watt.
and they’re not wrong.
I just don’t think this is the community for old servers like this, self hosting is very much a practical consideration and the money spent on electricity running anything useful on these old things is better spent on a raspberry pi or stand alone NAS or something.
In my opinion, selfhosting is also about discovering how (and what) you could selfhost with old hardware and OS, just for fun and understanding a bit more about the history of hardware
But yeah for 24/7 services I have others way more modern servers and also an OrangePi
wats on the pzaa
Does it cook pizza?
Did you use it to cook the pizza?
pizza for scale :)
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity
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nice pizza
Specs?
Intel Xeon 3.2GHz (yes that’s the whole model number), 4 gigs of DDR2 RAM and 3x 73GB Ultra SCSI disks!
