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  • jaschen@lemm.eetoTechnology@lemmy.worldNobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car
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    3 months ago

    So much to unpack here but I’ll do my best to address everything you’re saying here.

    1- Chinese cars can’t compete in price: yes because China has been dumping subsidies into the market, inflating the supply. China dumped 231 billion dollars into EVs from 2009 to 2023. Over 500 electric car brands were created due to this injection. There is only are less than 100 left after China stopped the subsidies.

    2- The Chinese EV are a superior product: which one of the 500 car companies are you referring to? outside ofthe top China brands (Geely, BYD), they all sorta suck.

    China is doing is state sponsored “dumping”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy) which artificially reduces prices to gain market share and has a negative effect on the industry. Every country in the world, not just the US, has an anti dumping policy, including China.

    While we the consumer would love to spend pennies on the dollar for an electric cars, the effect is only temporary and when we start losing car companies due to this practice, prices always, ALWAYS, are higher after we lose competition.

    Anti dumping policies is not hindering free market. The second you inject 231 billion dollars of government subsidies into an industry, is the second it no longer becomes a free market.

    Yes, the USA has also has given subsidies. In total about 30 billion dollars. A drop in the bucket on the 231 billion the CCP has injected.




  • jaschen@lemm.eetoTechnology@lemmy.worldNobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car
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    3 months ago

    I would too, but you have to understand why the USA is blocking these cars from coming in. The cost of these cheap EVs are not based off of supply and demand. Its not even this cheap because of effectiveness or efficiencies. Its from the CCP subsidies. The CCP wants to dump on the competition in efforts to kill off anyone making a car, then start jacking up the price after they have market share.







  • I honestly don’t mind the design. Sure some people hate it, but I didn’t care about others opinions on my car. That’s why my current vehicle is 25 years old. At that time, I was looking for a larger EV and during that time large EVs were nonexistent.

    What sold me was the functionality. The concept had bench front row seating so I could seat 6(which they removed in the final). It had a usable trunk unlike the EVs at the time. There was frunk which was only on Teslas at the time. Also Tesla at the time had the highest safety rating among all cars. A promising auto pilot (which is a lie).

    It also claimed to have a bullet proof shell and glass. While Seattle is relatively safe, there have been many instances where people have been murdered for road rage or just existing at a red light