Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]

Regarding NATO, neither Hungary nor Turkey would ever permit this to happen and everyone knows it.

They both agreed to let Finland and Sweden to become formal members of this genocidal gang, so this claim does not have a good basis in reality.

Admission into NATO requires 100% support for all existing nations. Russia knows this would never happen.

What is this claim based on? How do you know that NATO’s owners wouldn’t just threaten the dissenters the way they actually did with Hungary?

‘Invading Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libra, Vietnam, Syria, etc., engaging in genocide, coups, kidnapping, torture, operations Gladio and the like is totally not fascist!’

• You

Haha.
You are yet to point to any lies that I have supposedly said, and you are quite literally now claiming that the US is not a part of NATO. Hilarious.

The US is, however, a part of NATO, and its de facto owner.

No

Yes.

The way this works is you made a false statement

Conveniently, you can’t point to any false statements that I made. All you have is excuses and apologia for your invasions and genocides. Actually, not even that, in this case.

So you are wrong

You are yet to point to anything that I am supposedly wrong about.
Meanwhile, you have literally claimed that Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and other countries are all just one country. You have also failed to point to any countries that Russia supposedly ‘also invaded’.

NATO is comprised of the US and the US’ glorified provinces.

If you want to distance the less major colonial robbers and genocidaires from things like these, you have to demonstrate that they do not assist the US, including that they do not promise to help fight whoever attacks the US in response to such actions.

Iran

Literally a few weeks ago (and probably on other occasions).

Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

Vietnam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

Cuba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

It’s honestly amazing how lacking in awareness you are.

Oh, you are openly in favour of nazi Germany now?

The only country NATO invaded

TIL that Iraq, Palestine, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, etc. are all just one country. /s

was also invaded by Russia

This is extremely silly. What are you even talking about?
If you are equating Russia with the USSR and think that the USSR invaded Afghanistan, then you should learn some basic facts about the topic, like the fact that the government of Afghanistan requested the USSR’s military involvement several times before the latter agreed.

NATO: Does coups, invasions, genocides, etc. all the time
Non-NATO country: Tries to defend itself against NATO’s aggression
Libs: How dare they not roll over for our empire?

They keep poking borders without recourse.

Yeah, NATO keeps doing that without recourse, and should face retaliation.
In general, NATO should face justice for colonial horrors that it has been inflicting upon the world…

Yeah I’m a trans gender bisexual nazi.

I see that Ernst Rohm is back.

I do wonder when the communists here will learn that Russia isn’t communist any more and is instead a capitalist…empire!

This ‘argument’ is bizarre. You do realise that NATO is not communist, either, right? And that NATO is orders of magnitude worse than every other polity on the planet, by virtue of being the most prolific invader in the world, engaging in at least one high-profile genocide, engaging in colonialism, etc., right?

just ask chechnya

States never tolerate separatist movements, so what you are saying is that your state is imperialist as well. Considering that you are fine with that, we can conclude that you are also fine with Russia.
But also, the part of the Russian government that did support the Chechen separatists was literally shelled with tanks by the NATO-backed forces.

georgia

Georgia literally attacked the South Ossetian separatists and the peacekeepers.
It’s extremely silly to be both pro-Georgia and pro-Chechnya in this context. By your own logic, one should condemn Georgia as imperialist.

and indeed Ukraine

Ukraine tried to join the gang of torturers and genocidaires that is NATO, and to bring their personnel and weaponry close to the most populated areas of its designated enemy. That is an act of aggression and the rest of the world has every right to defend against that.
Furthermore, Ukraine has invaded at least Iraq and Syria, which you are completely fine with.
Furthermore, Ukraine has been fighting its own separatists, whom Russia has been helping. By your logic, you should support them.

There was/is also the Wagner group which represented Russian presence in Africa.

Were they attacking African countries the way your empire has been doing?

Also the war crimes committed by Russia in the Kharkiv Region says everything I need to know about them.

You are fine with war crimes when Ukraine commits them, so you are fine with the Russian war crimes as well.

So given this, I do not support either America or Russia. I support Ukraine’s independence,

Currently, the Ukrainian government is a USian puppet.

and the way to do that is to send military aid, which I fully support

Military aid to the separatists and Russia, that is. Surely you don’t support states that try to join NATO, the most prolific invader in the world, do you?

how did they not negotiate

What do you mean? Are you actually not aware of the Ukrainian state to continue the bloodshed, including since the escalation of 2022?

that justifies being invaded by Russia?

The most prolific invader force in the world - NATO - decides to amass weapons and military personnel on its target’s most important border (due to the fact that the most populated parts of Russia are located close to it). How should NATO’s target respond to defend itself?

Ukraine has refused to negotiate peace repeatedly, which would have avoided the destruction.

Also, you seem fine with NATO having invaded Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Palestine, etc., with Ukraine participating in at least the invasions of Iraq and Syria, so it’s incredibly silly of you to go ‘but what about the destruction?’ You are literally supporting the most prolific invader in the world.
Post-coup Ukraine decided to bring NATO’s weapons and soldiers to the border of Russia’s most populated parts. The rest of the world (including Russia) has every right to defend itself from your vile empire.

They are not a brainwashed pro-NATO dronie that keeps going ‘everybody who contradicts the people that say, “Iraq has WMDs” must be spreading disinformation!’ Seems like you think that everybody who doesn’t buy your propaganda is Russian for some reason.