

This is it right here. I can’t believe the nonsense I’m reading in this thread. Just goes to show how absolutely uninformed most people are when it comes to security and privacy


This is it right here. I can’t believe the nonsense I’m reading in this thread. Just goes to show how absolutely uninformed most people are when it comes to security and privacy


My experience has been that computer science is a huge umbrella term to normies. Many people, including hiring managers seem to thing computer science is more of a trade education where people come out knowing everything about excel, windows, PowerPoint, file conversions, obscure knowledge of ancient software, expertise in setting up enterprise printers, etc
I was developing software for a position I was in, and everyone was shocked I was a developer… (It was a devops job where everyone basically edited yaml or json files all day long…)


People who disagree with you are people who never spent time with the ultra rich. I’ve had the pleasure to hang in those circles and it was absolutely eye opening the complete disdain that social class has toward the working class. It’s so fucking crazy that one has to see it for themselves to truly appreciate the hate they have for everyone not in their economic circles.
Preach on brother, but I also understand why the plebs don’t believe you


That actually explains this stupidity doesn’t it …


Right - the entire stock market doesn’t make sense, doesn’t seem to stop Tesla or any of the other massively overvalued stocks. Btw stocks have been massively overvalued for over a decade, but that’s a different topic


So not any amount then. My point stands


Absolutely my point


It’s not a statement out of ignorance and it’s not a lie. Most people don’t try to move huge money around so I’ll illustrate what I had to go through - I had a huge sum of money I had in an online investing company. I had a very time critical situation I needed the money for, so I cashed out my investments - the company only cashed out via check sent via registered mail (maybe they did transfers for smaller amounts, but for the sum I had it was check only). It took almost two weeks for me to get that check. When I deposited that check with my bank, the bank had a mandatory 5-7 business day wait to clear (once again, smaller checks they deposit immediately and then do the clearing process - BIG checks they don’t do that, so I had to wait another week). Once cleared, I had to move the money to another bank, and guess what - I couldn’t take that much cash out, daily transfers are capped at like $1500 or whatever they were, so I had to get a check from the bank. The other bank made me wait another 5-7 business day as well, because the check was just too damn big.
4 weeks it took me to move huge money around, and of course I missed the time critical thing I really needed the money for.
I’m just a random person, not a business, no business accounts, etc. The system just isn’t designed for small folk to move big money


I have a dirty suspicion that the “where’s the ROI?” talking point is actually a calculated and collaborated strategy by big wall street banks to panic retail investors to sell so they can gobble up shares at a discount - trump is going to be pumping (at minimum) hundreds of BILLIONS into these companies in the near future.
Call me a conspiracy guy, but I’ve seen this playbook many many times


I disagree - before Bitcoin there was no venmo, cashapp, etc. It took weeks to move big money around. I’m not saying shit like NFT’s ever made sense, and meme coins are fucking stupid - unfortunately the crypto world has been taken over by scammers - but don’t shit on the technology


Honestly none of this means anything at the moment. This might be some sort of calculated trickery from China to give Nvidia the finger, or Biden the finger, or a finger to Trump’s AI infrastructure announcement a few days ago, or some other motive.
Maybe this “selloff” is masterminded by the big wall street players (who work hand-in-hand with investor friendly media) to panic retail investors so they can snatch up shares at a discount.
What I do know is that “AI” is a very fast moving tech and shit that was true a few months ago might not be true tomorrow - no one has a crystal ball so we all just gotta wait and see.


And that mathematician won’t see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades


Typical Divide and conquer - Stop demonizing people who work for a living - it’s no different than demonizing every single American because of US foreign policy. Blame those at the top making their greedy decisions and the puppet masters behind them.


Meta is just going to scrub all the Cara content into their AI system anyway. They have no fear because there are no real consequences


I will totally agree with you it all does come down to money, but I feel Apple/Tim Cook is still principled in this regard - he has made a stand that the customer is not the product, and the investors/share holders appear to respect this boundary so far. All that is needed is a shithead CEO to come in and squeeze every cent, which at that point might very well be to monetize users like Google. Anything can change tomorrow.
Btw I’m a hobbyist security researcher, and the more I study Apple/iOS/MacOS, the more impressed I am. I don’t actually have any apple devices, but I’m really starting to consider it
Inb4 Linux


True - show me proof Apple monetizes it’s users, then we can continue this discussion


Let’s be real here, google and every other company sells you out to their advertisers instantly and even double dip and triple dip on your info wherever they can. Apple doesn’t and they take their security seriously. Feds are always crying about how hard it is to break into iphones, telcos are complaining how apple protects it’s users (because telcos have an interest in monetizing those apple users), and the payouts for finding security vulnerabilities for apple products are very high.
Google and apple are absolutely on different ends of the spectrum of user privacy and security


Why do they have movies on planes? Are we not all pilots on a plane too? Never saw someone with kids in a car 🤣


Bro, why you lumping apple in with musk?
Seriously, apple does a spectacular job at user privacy and security, probably second to none.
You are clearly a fucking little teen or something. I have tons of old systems that do the job fine and will run until the heat deah of the universe. Not everything is about the latest and greatest gaming system.