Eldritch

I would argue that’s not quite correct. You can absolutely transfer HTML files over gopher, but you’re not going to be viewing it in the gopher program.It was very much designed to be what most people would be more familiar with in concept as an FTP server today, almost. Pretty much all you could view in app were plain text files. and no links between. Everything else was a directory of files to be downloaded.

Gemini is definitely a bit of an inbetween. It does allow for linking between documents, but otherwise keeps everything simple and small, much like Gopher did.

That depends on how you define the web. If you only call the web the web when it was named the web and not what it was before it was named the web. Then yes you’re correct that was before the web. The question is, is that a semantic or significant difference? ARPANET was still a web of interconnected systems. For an old goober like myself.who was using FidoNet net back in the mid 80s. And the actual internet in the late 80s, early 90s. I definitely remember Gophering on the Internet. Plenty of places still maintained gopher directories till the mid 90s.

Yes, the bandwidth would be the damper there. It’s great for transmitting just a little bit of data, long distances. But for any sort of bigger data we transmit regularly on phones and desktop. It becomes unfeasible, even low resolution images.It definitely has a range benefit, though that’s for sure.I think fellow Missourian Jeff Geerling had a video out a while back where he talked about using it to contact people below his flight on the way to open sauce.

Gemini space baby! What’s old is new again.

Definitely. The conditions that created this version of the web have been gone for some time now. We’ve gone from connections that were temporarily and required hours to download a few minutes of postage stamp sized video. To always on connections capable of streaming multiple HD streams faster than real time in both directions.

For my part I’m also looking in to purchasing and trying to set up a small Adhoc mesh Halow network and running a few services on it for myself and any others in the neighborhood that are interested. A small, free (after the hardware) anarchist wireless network. 16mbps can do a lot with simple services, etc.Plus, if a number of people in the area decided to adopt and contribute more nodes to the mesh, you could go faster still.

As we know it? It already has several times. How many of you out there are browsing the web using Gofer? The centralized oligarchcentric web that we know today needs to die and great new things are coming along to take its place. Returned to more sustainable collaborative websites and services. Like the fediverse.

The difference between us and them is that we don’t want to do things to hurt them. Far from it. We honestly want to do things to help them. When we do hate them, it’s not for who they are, but who they choose to be. And that makes all the difference.

Always have. Most of them have never met the people they’ve been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token “good ones”.

Nah, it wasn’t astroturfed. Current gen AI is little more than automated theft ATM. A lot of artists had their work stolen with no compensation. And now have an even tougher time ahead, competing with the thieves than they already had before. A lot of the angst and hate has been knee-jerk and lacking nuance. Doing as much to alienate people from their cause as bring them to it. But it’s real.

What’s equally absurd however. Are those that naively think we could use AI against those already using it. They’re building farms that consume more power than major cities. With more compute than even large groups of average individuals will ever be able to muster. It doesn’t matter how much of a force multiplier it is. 10x return on a force of 10,000,000 is exponentially more return than a 500x increase on a force of 100.

Ai may just be a tool, but it’s not going to turn the tide in favor of the left.

Yes, I have a black and white brother lazer printer. That thing is a workhorse. Still gives problems every so often, but far more reliable than any inkjet printer I’ve ever had. And far less costly to maintain.

Oh I know. No shade on them for starting with inkjet. Long term though the lazer/LED printers are just the more economical and sustainable option. This is a welcome disruption regardless.

Agreed. But a start is a start. More of this please!

While I’d personally love to see an open color lazer printer more. (Less wasteful and more rugged) This is still fantastic! It’s always been a saying of mine that modern printers are the torture devices of our time. This could go a long long way to right a lot of these wrongs. I will definitely have to check this out.

I mention in the Linux space only because it’s what I’m familiar with and didn’t want to make assumptions about groups I’m not familiar with. Unlike you who’s looking for a way to take umbridge and talk passed people. I went to college for IT and have done it for 30 years.

In network and IT planning. The cloud is the wider network outside your own. That you don’t have mapped. Often depicted by a “cloud”. If I have a personal data pool on one of my own networks. And need it from another. It may transmit via the “cloud”. But it isn’t IN the cloud. It’s on a personal server. If the server is in your house, and you can point exactly to where your data is. Then the rule of thumb is that it is in your house. Not the cloud. If it’s hosted on a system you couldn’t directly point to on a network you have no knowledge of. Especially a shared system. Then things literally and figuratively are getting cloudier.

That said, marketing as it often does. Appropriates and misuses words based around buzz. And I am not about to admonish hobbyist who use it in the marketing sense. I understand, I get it.

If you host in OSX on Apple Silicon, that’s great. If you host on a 68k Mac or Amiga you’re a fucking mad lad! If you’re hosting under Windows, any TCP port in the storm mate. If you are hosting from a Linux distribution that is not God’s chosen, cool how is it working out? If you are hosting from BeOS. or Haiku, you are a glorious oddball and absolutely my sort of person. And if you are hosting from an appliance that you really don’t know what it’s running, welcome to the hobby. It’s a good starting point. And a lill data in the cloud isn’t a crime. We all have some. But if you can’t easily point to it. Can you really know you have it?

It’s fine. But yes in the Linux space. We tend to want to host ourselves. Not have to trust some administrator of some cloud we don’t know/trust.

Yep, I found her through YouTube. Her and action retro’s content is always great.with some Adrian black on the side.

And I generally enjoy Veronica’s presentation. Knowledgable and simple.

Bwang!

Yep. The United States was one of the bigest inspirations for Nazi Germany. It goes back to the countries founding unfortunately.

Yep back in the 1930s.