Humans are reading ChatGPT users’ prompts to improve OpenAl’s models, and those chats can include sensitive, personal information, according to leaked internal documents and real prompts seen by 404 Media.

The news presents a major privacy risk for ChatGPT’s users, with people often using ChatGPT as a therapist, professional assistant, or digital friend, and providing it with all sorts of intimate details about their lives. The contractors don’t see ChatGPT usernames, and OpenAl says it tries to remove personal information before prompts reach the reviewers, but the company acknowledged sensitive details can still get through.

The news also dispels the misconception that these models are improving only because of OpenAl’s mass scraping of the internet, the talent of its well-paid engineering and Al teams, or the power of its newer models. An important and overlooked part are the outside contractors paid to read and review ChatGPT responses to real prompts over and over again. Anthropic confirmed to 404 Media it is also using human review to improve its models.

“No,” someone who works with the prompts said when asked if they think ChatGPT users know that humans are reading their chats. “I don’t think they would imagine some contractor somewhere […] is analyzing the conversations.”

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  • kescusay@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I’m 100% positive they’re not reading my ChatGPT logs.

    (I don’t use ChatGPT, and neither should anyone else.)

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      That’s not what this is. Humans aren’t providing the responses, they’re reviewing them, grading them, and using them to train models.

      An example of a mechanical turk would be Waymo using humans to navigate situations the computer can’t.

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        If AI is so smart, why does it need this level of baby-sitting from humans? Mechanical Turk, one step removed.

        The tech gods are saying they’ve reached Artificial General Intelligence, yet clearly if they have to pay humans to continually train the bots on the subtleties of human interaction, they have not reached AGI, and even feeding an LLM the entire corpus of the internet is insufficient to train them.

        As much as I think this is a good and necessary step (privacy concerns aside), it definitely does point to AI being significantly less than advertised.

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          If AI is so smart,

          First off, the label AI is bad - it’s Artificial, but Intelligent - or smart - it is not.

          LLM - Large Language Model + scaffolding. They match patterns. They build an unimaginably complex “context window” of 200,000 tokens and from that they synthesize their responses to prompts of usually a few dozen tokens based on trillions of model weights trained on hundreds of trillions of tokens. Optical character recognition has been doing this to automatically “read” the routing numbers printed on the bottom of checks since the early 1960s, that old OCR just has much much lower dimensions of patterns to match.

          The “Mechanical Turk, one step removed” is helping to tune those trillions of model weights by reinforcing when it “gets things right” and flagging when it “gets things wrong.” The LLM has to find this out somehow, that’s what the employees are doing - training it, teaching it right from wrong.

          AlphaZero taught itself to play chess, Go, and other relatively simple games nearly 9 years ago now - it mastered those with “best next move to win” pattern analysis / generation all by itself because the rules of those games are crisp, well defined, simple. What makes “a good response” in a conversation is a hugely different animal with orders of magnitude more dimensions and levels of nuance.

          After all this training, the next generation model should, statistically, generate “correct” conversational responses more often, according to what the inputs of the employees consider and tell the model is correct and incorrect for a given situation.

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          It’s not babysitting, it’s training. The humans grading the responses is how the models are being improved. It’s just a more targeted approach than “let’s scan the whole internet.”

          Humans aren’t pretending to be AI. This is a completely different scenario than the mechanical turk.

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            You are correct, it is not literally talking to a person. You could even go further and point out that the trainers are not literally Turkish.

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              You seem to not be grasping the concept of the mechanical turk. The human was the one playing chess, not the machine. The machine playing chess was a lie.

              You’re basically saying that a student’s math teacher is actually doing the student’s homework because they taught the student how to do it.

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                  That still doesn’t mean it’s comparable to the mechanical turk. The machine didn’t actually do anything. It was all the human.

                  That’s not the case for AI. What AI does is actually transformative, and the output is not just a person pretending to be a machine.

                  A human providing the output while pretending to be a machine is a hard requirement.

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                  The machine isn’t smart, or dumb. The machine generates responses based on training. How well those responses match expectations is a measure of the training.

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    Oh no, I’m so flabbergasted! A US-bigtec’s chatbot’s “conversations” are monitored and read? How shocking and unexpected.

    Maybe the best tactic to keep confidential information confidential is, well, to keep it confidential and not put into some chatbot. But what do I know…

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    There probably has been some disclaimer that we all got so used to just clicking away. Saying that everything you say here will be recorded and read by 3rd parties. Or some such. Right?!

    I’m not saying this makes it OK though.