cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/71321898

Netzpoltik details that police are able to gain access in this way either through physical access to someone’s phone or by intercepting verification codes via a state-sanctioned phishing attack or intercepting SMS messages via telephone surveillance

  • DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    There are all of these stories about signal because it is notable when someone gets around it

    That there’s anything approaching secure communication on a cell-phone dominated Internet whose.operating systems are either “snobbish walled garden” or “ad agency living in the corpse of a search engine” is astonishing. In the same way that a gun safety that keeps a toddler from shooting themselves with an otherwise loaded gun is astonishing.

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      10 hours ago

      can’t get around simplex encryption unless you have physical access to the device or have been physically invited by a member.

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        43 minutes ago

        breaking the encryption is hard , but getting around the encryption is entirely doable without physical access if you allow SMS or on-device sharing.

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        4 hours ago

        Ok so no better than Signal?

        You can do all the same things and use Tor, allow Sealed sender, and rotate username with phone number hidden.

        Why does Simplex want investors?

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        8 hours ago

        You should trust signal tree the same way you trust a front door lock that has never been broken or picked despite repeated attempts to do both.

        .Just remember that police only go through the door when it’s easier than breaking a window or tearing through a wall.

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                3 hours ago

                Signal supports Tor.

                They have features like Sealed Sender, which is at least on par with the multiple server behavior of Simplex as it behaves the same (message passing multiple servers, carrying no sender origin data in plaintext)

                Simplex knows the same thing. The pairwise identifiers is a sham - all your different identifiers point to the same Android/iOS notification server API key so they know the recipient is the same person, they can tell which exact phone receives a notification when somebody sends you a message (unless the devs use anonymized fetch on a polling schedule, which they don’t).

                And because they don’t hide those sender stamps, Simplex leak more info than Signal with Sealed sender

                Why is Simplex asking for investors?

                Are Simplex even considering notification content security?