• tyler@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    They’re definitely not. Hard drives use a fraction of the energy a single LLM prompt does. A study calculated that every 100 words uses an entire water bottle’s worth of water. That’s a lot of cooling for 100 words. It’s very likely that these companies use several gpus for every single prompt, meaning huge servers for just a few users.

    Meanwhile the internet archive has archived a significant portion of the internet with nary a data center in sight.

    You can compress video. You can’t compress the energy needed to generate output.

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      2 days ago

      All the hard drive do is storing the data, they do need the data centers to comb through them for any patterns they deemed to be a threat to them

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        Which still doesn’t require as much energy as LLMs do. I run exactly that on my own server at home. And my unifi system does it on video all locally with no GPU at all. Video processing for identification is incredibly cheap and easy from a computer processing standpoint these days. You literally can do it on a raspberry pi.

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                1 day ago

                I’m just gonna hope you’re joking and not that your username is an accurate description.

                Knowing when someone is at your doorbell without ringing the doorbell is pretty useful. Same for knowing if your dog got out, or a number of other things. I don’t like sharing my neighbors data with Amazon or the Feds, so running it all locally is perfect. I get to control how long any data is kept for, what it scans for, and none of it leaves my property.

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          2 days ago

          And? It doesn’t matter what solution is optimal. The only thing matters is this is the solution their rich friends sold them.

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      2 days ago

      just fyi the internet archive storage is most definitely in a data center or 3. your hospitals use data centers, schools too. just not at the scale of ai types.

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        2 days ago

        The Internet archive doesn’t have an entire data center just for archiving is what I’m saying. Not that they don’t use data centers.