• Widdershins@lemmy.world
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    27 minutes ago

    How the hell does fandom exist as a top result every time but exist as an absolute shit source of information also every time?

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    2 hours ago

    This is really when the old web rings would be nice to have back. It was a web because sites linked to each otheress efficient but at least things could be found, versus the gated access we have now.

  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip
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    8 hours ago

    The problem with Google is that they made the best version of their product in the first try. All they could do from there would be making it worse.

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    19 hours ago

    Yeah, this has been for a while now.

    When Digital Extremes made and hosted their own wiki for Warframe instead of the fandom one, you had to directly search the main page of their wiki from Google instead of just searching.

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      16 hours ago

      it didn’t take long for search engines, including google, to pick up wiki.warframe.com though, as it was just a sub off an existing and long-standing domain… the hard part was getting pages on the new address to rank higher than the old one that fandom won’t delete.

      what you should do for any wiki is add the wiki’s search as a search engine in your browser. firefox makes it easy to do. just go to the wiki (i.e. wiki.warframe.com), right-click in the search box on that page, choose ‘add search engine’. add a ‘keyword’ to make searching it easy (e.g. wf), so now all you have to do to search the warframe wiki is type in firefox’s address box, example: wf void trader

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    22 hours ago

    Well, this explains the experience I had with the poe2 wiki 2 months ago. I could only find the poe1 wiki and thought it was so damn weird that there wasn’t one for the sequel. Then a week or so later, a reddit thread had a comment to the poe2 wiki, and I was so confused why it hadn’t shown up, when I specifically searched for it. smh. Glad to have that mystery solved!

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      21 hours ago

      I have switched to DuckDuckgo and while their index is crap, it’s at least has more crap than what Google has.

      DuckDuckgo I believe leases the Bing engine so I am still trying others.

      also now I am using the direct search engines for specific sites… eg ‘@wiki <my search query>’ to use Wikipedias onwn search.

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        2 hours ago

        Searxng was working pretty well for me until everyone started blocking even my own instance.

      • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com
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        17 hours ago

        ddg uses the bing web crawler to index pages but then applies its own sorting algorithm for search results

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        19 hours ago

        Startpage uses Google’s index, or used to. At very least, it seems to have more and different results than DuckDuckGo.

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          14 hours ago

          Oh interesting, Startpage looks like it has access to Google’s image search dataset and possibly their crazy ass vector basesd mobius strip index system

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        16 hours ago

        i have this problem. I use ddg sometimes to find wiki info, and if the piece of info is too new, ddg just gives me some clearly vibe-coded page with bogus information.

        last week i waded through like 6 fake fields of Mistria wikis on the first page of ddg before giving up and finding the “official” ones on Google

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          14 hours ago

          Apologies if you already know this. Sharing because if you’re spending a lot of time searching a game wiki, this can be really convenient.

          You can setup your browser for typing ‘@mistria juniper’ would bring up the wiki search page for everything related to that character.

          disclaimer: I think Chromium can do this too

          If you are often referring to a wiki, you can temporarily add it as a search engine to your browser’s internal location search bar.

          With FireFox -> Settings -> Search -> “Add search engine” in the “Additional search engines”

          I picked a random mistria wiki and the URL would be

          https://fieldsofmistria.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Search?search=%25s&go=Go&ns0=1 for searching.

          For name ‘@mistria’ should be unique enough.

          I got that by typing “test” in the search box to get this “https://fieldsofmistria.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Search?search=Test&go=Go&ns0=1” just swap out the ‘Test’ for ‘%s’

          Now press ctrl + l to focus on the location/search bar and type “@mistria juniper” to get an in wiki search results for everything related to that character.

          One exception. if the url has something like ‘nonce=a4F7DEF’ or other hex crap, it is probably not going to work and may get your IP temporarily blocked.

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            4 hours ago

            Custom searches are awesome! There might be an even easier way:

            With Firefox, most of the time, you can right-click a search box and choose “Add Search Engine,” and you’ll get a box allowing you to give the search engine a name and a search bar keyword. Which you can edit later with Settings -> Search if needed.

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    22 hours ago

    The whole Alphabet group are one big mis-information hub. They also support Genocide and ‘The Trump’. Wether it is censoring sites/people that disagree with US elites, or if they are pushing information seekers to their own controlled information garden, or western corporate eco-systems, we all need to get rid of them.