• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Lol! I’m not “moving the goal posts”…you’re just completely missing the point.

    When someone says “You can’t just murder people and take their land”, they aren’t claiming that it’s impossible…they’re stating a moral position. When you come back with, “Yes they can. It’s been fine to do that all along”…you are also stating a moral position.

    What you also don’t seem to get here, is that you are simultaneuously criticizing some countries, for doing exactly what you claim is acceptable for other countries to do…and you’re using the examples you don’t agree with to justify the ones you do agree with. And you don’t even seem to recognize the hypocrisy in what you are saying. You can’t say we agree on the moral issue, while also saying that it’s acceptable because of whatever historical examples you can come up with where someone did something equally shitty.

    Even your example of Texas is a perfect example of colonial imperialism, stealing land from its historical inhabitants, under the name of occupation rights. You think that justifies Russia invading Ukraine…but seem completely unaware of the parallel you’re highlighting? Seriously. Have you even thought about this argument? How does it make sense to you without also saying that colonial imperialsim is acceptable?

    It was never acceptable. Even when it was still considered “just the way things work”. If you can see that it’s not acceptable for the US or Israel to murder people for their land and resources…then it should be easy to say that its not acceptable for Russia to do the same thing. Anything less, and YOU are the one “moving the goal posts”.