• h0tbeef@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Well, that may very well be the most depressing comment I’ve ever read.

    You either need to work on your listening skills or find some new less-vacant people to interact with, because what you’re saying is insane

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      1 day ago

      Sounds like you haven’t tried modern AI yet. I could train an AI on your comment history and copy you, and nobody would be able to tell the difference

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        I’ve tried. They’re adamant against AI here. It’s not even worth the discussion. There’s an army of belligerent people here who have made up their minds that LLM are “stochastic parrots” and they’re convinced they understand exactly how they work. No one can tell them otherwise. Doesn’t even matter your credentials. They’re the experts here. If you argue, they’ll only belittle you.

        Save yourself the frustration and heartache; just silently pity them.

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            15 hours ago

            Uh huh… That makes you specifically qualified on the topic? Far more than myself, certainly, with my MSc in Machine Learning.

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              14 hours ago

              As far as understanding the technology goes? It makes me more qualified than 99% of the AI glazers I encounter, but you may be an exception.

              To say that an LLM is “less dumb” is a misnomer tho, because it implies that the LLM is “thinking” rather than “calculating”.

              My issue here is the anthropomorphic language being used to intentionally mislead people who don’t have even a tertiary understanding of the underlying mechanics.

              Surely you know that under the hood it’s all just algorithms. 1s and 0s run through a fluctuating probability equation.

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          8 hours ago

          You overestimate most people. Here’s a study from 2025

          https://arxiv.org/html/2211.13087

          Among AI models, Blenderbot stood out: in AI-AI conversations, it was judged human 67% of the times - more often than actual human-human conversations. In human-AI conversations, human participants were labeled as humans 68% of the time, and AIs were classified as AI 56% of the time.

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            4 hours ago

            This is an interesting study. I wonder why there’s such a disparity between the number of AI ‘participants’ (10) and human participants (1,916). I wonder how adding additional AI models would impact the data.

            Anyway, this is just benchmarking the AI on 6 language specific tasks. They were programmed and set up specifically to perform whatever specific one task they had to do at the time, that is what computers do. The fact that computers are 1% better at recognizing other computers than humans are is irrelevant.

            AI cannot pass the Turing Test, this article is about “6 Turing like tasks” and it can’t even pass those yet, lmao. You know they’re already seeing diminishing returns in further training right?

            Even in this article it says that even if AI could pass a real Turing Test it wouldn’t be a sign of intelligence or cognition.

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              Something I should point out just in case is that 50% success rate is the same as random chance. So when the study says:

              AIs were classified as AI 56% of the time.

              That really means that humans could not tell the difference between AI and human, since their success rate was almost the same as random chance.

              6 language specific tasks. They were programmed and set up specifically to perform whatever specific one task they had to do at the time, that is what computers do.

              Sure, and that task was “imitate humans”, and these computers seem remarkably good at it. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t care that these AI work differently than humans. They can imitate humans so well that humans can’t tell the difference.