• graynk@discuss.tchncs.de
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    16 hours ago

    Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.

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      10 hours ago

      Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.

      I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.

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        5 hours ago

        I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.

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        People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.

        It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.

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          14 hours ago

          Sometimes corporations lie.

          It’s not being unhinged to say you don’t like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing “AI” is not welcomed.

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          12 hours ago

          Who cares it’s a corporation, it doesn’t have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.

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        11 hours ago

        Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.

        Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.

        This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.

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          5 hours ago

          I don’t know what you’re on about. There is no keylogger and I don’t have any issues with the engine unless it’s some weird ass “chrome experiments” style website which I couldn’t care less about.

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          10 hours ago

          Firefox doesn’t include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.

          In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.

          Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.

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          10 hours ago

          I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.

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          10 hours ago

          You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a… any of em, really.

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      16 hours ago

      They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!

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      10 hours ago

      Alternatives being even worse doesn’t make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.

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      All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer. They’ve made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.

      Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That’s why I use it primarily.

      Origin is free on Linux.

      Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion

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        Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis

        I don’t know what “certain features” are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don’t need to touch anything else.

        Origin is free on Linux.

        Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it’s still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It’s not “paying for convenience” it’s a tax on tech incompetency.

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        Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer

        Such as? Crypto nonsense?

        The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).

        I dont see the value.

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        7 hours ago

        I’m curious how their adblocker blocks more than 100% of all ads, cuz that’s what they’d need to beat ublock (which existed before brave did).

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          To be fair, he said something about built-in
          But I’m with you
          The choice of high quality ad Blockers per addon is nothing that’s wrong with Firefox