• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Not OP, but conventional hybrids are alright. Plug-In hybrids are kind of a waste, and really only see benefits in very niche situations.

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      18 hours ago

      Plug-in hybrids fail because of people. They could cover most or all of a typical commute on battery, but there was that recent study saying people don’t use them that way. If you’re going to treat it like an ICE car, it’s just an ICE car with more weight, that costs more.

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        47 minutes ago

        the problem with PHEVs is the battery is very small, which is a longevity concern. Batteries lose charge capacity based on how many charging cycles they go through. So if you are discharging most of the battery on a daily commute you’re going to kill that battery’s capacity within a few years (like a cell phone).

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      1 day ago

      . Plug-In hybrids are kind of a waste, and really only see benefits in very niche situations.

      The situation where you commute 25 miles or less, where national average is 16 miles.

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          21 hours ago

          For those times where you do need to go 1000mi without wasting time at a charge station for hours

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            45 minutes ago

            yes, extra battery capacity does not require extra maintenance or fossil fuel like an ICE engine does.

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            19 hours ago

            You can get a shorter range EV if that fits your needs. Gas engine just adds weight and complexity.

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              19 hours ago

              That’s good, until you need to take a longer trip. At which point you can either have the extra batteries or a gas engine. There are arguments for either solution.

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                15 hours ago

                In that case, it’s better to just run a conventional hybrid if you frequently need to take long trips.

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                  14 hours ago

                  Unless you can do most of your day-to-day tasks within the electric range of the PHEV, only needing gas for the infrequent long trips