• Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    19 hours ago

    China is building them in 5-6 years, the best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago and the second best time is now.

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      17 hours ago

      We can’t build them in China, though. Only China can do that. My country doesn’t even have an existing nuclear industry.

      Sure we could start building reactors now, but we can get enough solar and battery storage through the night for less than nuclear would cost.

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          6 hours ago

          Everyone who’s looking to make money is building wind, solar and batteries. Nobody’s looking to invest in nuclear. That’s what the people with all the financial data and feasability studies are doing.

          The only people we’ve got pushing for nuclear are the people who were trying to build new coal plants a few years ago.

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      16 hours ago

      Props to China, but I know how long building projects take in my country. The plan will say 15 years and it will be done in 25 for 3x the price. And all that to have it produce a kWh for 0.50€. No, thanks.

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        14 hours ago

        So don’t build 1-off designs, look at the most expensive parts of plant construction, and lower those costs. China’s nuclear industry isn’t just some construction company that commissions bespoke parts for each nuclear plant, it extends to from heavy forging capacity shared with ship-building to colleges producing construction managers.

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          6 hours ago

          I work in construction, and that’s just not the way things work in America. Any government project is required to have a bidding phase with multiple options for nearly every required item so that every company has a fair chance to compete.

          I do doors, and even when a government project is calling for some hyper-specific Blast+RF+STC door that only one company can even make, my manager still makes me reach out to a bunch of other companies to get a second number just to have something, even if I then have to qualify that what they’re able to make doesn’t actually fit the specifications.

          It’s not uncommon for a large, complex project to spend 4+ years in the bidding phase alone, getting rebid over and over with dozens of addendums and RFI’s working out all the kinks, without even mentioning the time spent in the planning phase beforehand and the lengthy construction phase afterward.

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            Any government project is required to have a bidding phase with multiple options for nearly every required item so that every company has a fair chance to compete.

            The issue here isn’t that there is a bidding process, it’s that only 1 company makes the thing, and that company isn’t even an SoE so it has no reason not to charge infinity dollars while delivering as little as possible.

            It’s not uncommon for a large, complex project to spend 4+ years in the bidding phase alone, getting rebid over and over with dozens of addendums and RFI’s working out all the kinks, without even mentioning the time spent in the planning phase beforehand and the lengthy construction phase afterward.

            I am not familiar with the specifics of how large complex projects happen over here, but it’s not magic, it’s insane that we’ve seen them lap us in every productive measure, and aren’t trying to study what they’re doing right.