• uuj8za@piefed.social
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    11 hours ago

    Yeah, 100% agree.

    While not the ideal right now, I think Codeberg shows promise.

    They’re working on federation: https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation

    Although, sure, it doesn’t seem to be their #1 priority. However, compared to GitHub this is a great step.

    Also, again compared to GitHub or GitLab, Codeberg gives me more confidence because they don’t seem to be a commercial organization: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/what-is-codeberg/#what-is-codeberg-e.v.?

    So “getting bought” or having to “please investors” seems less likely.

    We need federation and open standards, 100% agree. GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, etc are on the opposite side of that mission. SourceHut’s answer to federation is email… which I think most people will not like.

    I’d love to hear about a source forge that is:

    • non-commercial, non-VC backed to avoid enshittification
    • FLOSS, self-hostable
    • has federation today (or is even open to working on federation)
    • doesn’t have awkward federation UX (like email)

    No, really, I’d like to know. Codeberg is the only I know that approximates that list.

    Waffling on moving to Codeberg because it’s not 100% perfect means supporting GitHub and drops the possibility of federated forges to 0%. Moving to Codeberg makes the future of federated forges go up to greater than 0%.

    • cecilkorik@piefed.ca
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      11 hours ago

      Waffling on moving to Codeberg because it’s not 100% perfect means supporting GitHub and drops the possibility of federated forges to 0%. Moving to Codeberg makes the future of federated forges go up to greater than 0%.

      Fair, but there’s a third path that exists: spin up your own instance. Yeah, it’s more administration work, yeah it’s significantly more painful for contributors to contribute for now. But the more stand-alone, non-federated, community-operated forges are out there, the more appealing the federation glue needed to connect them all together becomes.