On Linux, when you update, it downloads the latest thing and installs it. 10 minutes tops. On arch you gotta watch it a bit more, but you signed up for that.
On windows it updates almost as frequently as Linux. Except it takes much longer to update. A new install can sit there churning for more than a half hour. Why? Didn’t I just download the latest iso? Even the incremental ones are painful. It also does this sequential crap where it updates, reboots, and then updates again. (Sometimes even a third time). Then you’ve got the bugs. I don’t think there’s been a single windows update in over a year that just went smoothly. I’ve run across two that flat out refused to install (blocking further updating), and one that broke things.
Windows update is bad enough for a regular use case. It’s downright painful if you haven’t booted windows in a while (think dual boot setups) where you have to pay this update tax just because you switched to windows to do that one thing.
The author is not being whiny, they are 100% correct.
This situation was the reason for me killing off my dual boot system and making it Linux only. I had kept Windows around for a few specific tools and games, but it was a roll of the dice if I could even use it when I needed because of the update situation.
I have a seperate drive and I physically unplug my windows drive when I’m not using it. when I do, plunplug Linux then plug in windows, hate myself for a while, then revert back.
I refuse to let microslop even see the Linux install since I know they are malicious criminal company and will tamper with shit just because.
Switching to Linux was so helpful. Windows whenever there was an update literally ate up my performance for some reason. 50% RAM just gone (6 GB total). I bet it was just a lack of optimization for less powerful PCs but it was still aggravating
To be fair sometimes if you update Linux too sparingly it results in conflicts. Of course the likelihood of that happening depends on the distro. Also the vast majority of Linux updates don’t require a reboot.
I have encountered a windows update that refused to install with a mysterious error code. After searching through the logs, I discovered it was refusing to proceed because it found an installer for an old version of the Netware client (that wasn’t installed) that it knew was incompatible, in a non-common directory (C:\PreviousHardDrive\Backups). It was searching the whole hard drive against a database of incompatible programs.
Windows only updates once a month. Rarely there is an out of band patch.
Updating after install is long, but it is optional, and it only happens the one time you install. If you’re reinstalling often then you’re doing it wrong.
I haven’t seen multiple restarts in many years.
You can always roll back an update if something goes wrong
.net updates are the worst. They appear to compile on each machine but it usually happens as a background task after restarting a restart.
But other updates are fine if you haven’t missed the previous month. They install in the background with lower priority. They download from other devices on your network, or from other devices closer to you than Microsoft’s cdn to reduce internet transit.
If you miss a month it will need to download the entire update, usually 1gb in size. Otherwise they only download a minimal amount of files.
Hotpatching is probably coming to everyone as they made it free for most business use. Updating Windows then wont require a restart except for 1-2x per year.
Half the time it’s not even doing anything. Minimal CPU and disk usage. They want update to be a background thing, but sometimes I just want it to hurry up and be over with.
MS must be listening to me. I just did todays update and it had my CPUs E cores pegged at 100% usage for a few minutes installing updates.
Recently spent almost four hours waiting for Windows Update on a brand-new PC. It wasn’t even apparent how long it would take, just kept grinding, rebooting, and grinding again.
For a three-decade OS that many bright programmers have worked on, Windows update sucks royally.
On Linux, when you update, it downloads the latest thing and installs it. 10 minutes tops. On arch you gotta watch it a bit more, but you signed up for that.
On windows it updates almost as frequently as Linux. Except it takes much longer to update. A new install can sit there churning for more than a half hour. Why? Didn’t I just download the latest iso? Even the incremental ones are painful. It also does this sequential crap where it updates, reboots, and then updates again. (Sometimes even a third time). Then you’ve got the bugs. I don’t think there’s been a single windows update in over a year that just went smoothly. I’ve run across two that flat out refused to install (blocking further updating), and one that broke things.
Windows update is bad enough for a regular use case. It’s downright painful if you haven’t booted windows in a while (think dual boot setups) where you have to pay this update tax just because you switched to windows to do that one thing.
The author is not being whiny, they are 100% correct.
This situation was the reason for me killing off my dual boot system and making it Linux only. I had kept Windows around for a few specific tools and games, but it was a roll of the dice if I could even use it when I needed because of the update situation.
I have a seperate drive and I physically unplug my windows drive when I’m not using it. when I do, plunplug Linux then plug in windows, hate myself for a while, then revert back.
I refuse to let microslop even see the Linux install since I know they are malicious criminal company and will tamper with shit just because.
I just kept them on separate drives, but you make a good point that one shouldn’t underestimate Microslop’s ability to fuck with your shit.
Switching to Linux was so helpful. Windows whenever there was an update literally ate up my performance for some reason. 50% RAM just gone (6 GB total). I bet it was just a lack of optimization for less powerful PCs but it was still aggravating
To be fair sometimes if you update Linux too sparingly it results in conflicts. Of course the likelihood of that happening depends on the distro. Also the vast majority of Linux updates don’t require a reboot.
I have encountered a windows update that refused to install with a mysterious error code. After searching through the logs, I discovered it was refusing to proceed because it found an installer for an old version of the Netware client (that wasn’t installed) that it knew was incompatible, in a non-common directory (C:\PreviousHardDrive\Backups). It was searching the whole hard drive against a database of incompatible programs.
Your experience is not typical.
Windows only updates once a month. Rarely there is an out of band patch.
Updating after install is long, but it is optional, and it only happens the one time you install. If you’re reinstalling often then you’re doing it wrong.
I haven’t seen multiple restarts in many years.
You can always roll back an update if something goes wrong
.net updates are the worst. They appear to compile on each machine but it usually happens as a background task after restarting a restart.
But other updates are fine if you haven’t missed the previous month. They install in the background with lower priority. They download from other devices on your network, or from other devices closer to you than Microsoft’s cdn to reduce internet transit.
If you miss a month it will need to download the entire update, usually 1gb in size. Otherwise they only download a minimal amount of files.
Hotpatching is probably coming to everyone as they made it free for most business use. Updating Windows then wont require a restart except for 1-2x per year.
Yeah, Microsoft’s patching schedule is so rigid that it’s a meme. Anything outside of Tuesday is a patch for something under active exploit.
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Windows 10 to 11, or feature updates, are the worst. Sometimes literal hours with adequate RAM, storage space, and NVME drive. It’s insane.
Half the time it’s not even doing anything. Minimal CPU and disk usage. They want update to be a background thing, but sometimes I just want it to hurry up and be over with.
MS must be listening to me. I just did todays update and it had my CPUs E cores pegged at 100% usage for a few minutes installing updates.
No they aren’t.
Feature updates take the same amount of time as monthly updates. It’s been like this for years.
Recently spent almost four hours waiting for Windows Update on a brand-new PC. It wasn’t even apparent how long it would take, just kept grinding, rebooting, and grinding again.
For a three-decade OS that many bright programmers have worked on, Windows update sucks royally.
I think you may have misread my comment