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That’s all the talk so far? It feels like a bad sign to me when power starts moving from the true believers to the VCs.
Which is why “Not for profit” organisations are such a good thing. They are harder to get going but because they are not investment vehicles in the same way you don’t have CEOs installed just to maximise share value. Decisions are focused on what the company needs to perform its mission.
The American Healthcare system fully disagrees with your statement, as they actively exploit non-profit status to avoid taxes and squeeze any “profits” into bonuses for the people at the top. They aren’t even the only industry doing this, but it all boils down to a piss poor lack of regulation and enforcement that really lets companies exploit non-profit structures.
USAmerica is just corrupt country that non-profit is just a way to avoid taxes.
Most of parts of the world won’t let non-profit to be turned that way.
Certainly things can be open to abuse, and different regulatory systems have different loop holes. However I have seen examples where it’s been a good thing.
It was always going to be this way. It didn’t take long to see the signs of enshittification on BSky. They were subpoenaed for user info, they banned journalists, implemented age verification, and I left when they started adding link redirects and tracking.
They banned journalists? Who?
And I didn’t know about the redirects and tracking either. They are doing that without ads?
https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-censorship-and-country-based-moderation/
And I didn’t know about the redirects and tracking either. They are doing that without ads?
Don’t take my word for it. Try it for yourself. Open any link and the link you clicked is hijacked back to a BSky domain.
Ahh, the “decentralized accelerationist” moves on to fuck up more platforms.
Blue sky was started by elon’s good buddy. It was always going to go full shit.
it wasn’t started by jack; it was an incubator project at twitter with the original twitter devs and jack remained on the board.
That goon has his DNA all over bluesky, and he has a long history with elon. Cling to semantics if you need to, but the spirit of what I said was true. If they could get away with the optics of dorsey heading bluesky in that “exodus” moment, they would have. But all knew that would leave a bad taste in the public’s mouth and slow/stall adoption, so they had the charade they presented.
Cling to semantics if you need to, but the spirit of what I said was true.
Is it? Doesn’t seem a valid argument.
Hitler embraced the construction of the autobahn. Therefore, the autobahn is evil.
operates the same way (guilt by association fallacy). I agree bluesky “was always going to shit” for entirely different reasons like repeating the same mistakes of twitter.
Maybe you could offer a more logical argument for your conclusion instead of dragging the discussion into irrationality?
No, it doesn’t, because, you used ‘embraced’ when the it would be more accurate to say that Dorsey started and oversaw the development of BlueSky.
Hitler didn’t go fully nuts into megalomaniacal monument planning, overuling his generals, micromanaging superweapon projects, untill … what, 1942ish?
Hitler embraced the autobahn, he didn’t oversee it as an involved executive, he appointed Fritz Todt to make actual decisions and lead the project.
He also didn’t invent it or found it. It was a thing that already existed, that he thought was a good idea, despite himself having really nothing to do with its early development.
(also just ‘holy shit’ at immediately jumping to literally Hitler as a comparison. I don’t even have that much smoke for Dorsey, sheesh)
Dorsey, on the other hand, started BlueSky, and ran BlueSky the way all VC/‘Angel Investors’ run their projects: You can’t really say no to them, what they say is basically understood to be what you do… or, they leave, as Dorsey eventually did.
He was obviously frustrated that he was not being listened to, on this project that he set up.
You can’t be frustrated that people aren’t listening to you if you’re not saying things, giving guidance, suggesting policies… that people are disregarding.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-bluesky-twiiter-nostr-interview-2024-5
Very early in Twitter’s history, Dorsey imagined that Twitter could be an open-source protocol that wasn’t controlled by anyone, instead of a venture-backed, for-profit company. But that didn’t happen. And later on, when Dorsey got frustrated while running the for-profit version of Twitter, he imagined that Twitter could help start an independent, open-source protocol version of itself — Bluesky.
But then — in Dorsey’s telling — he got frustrated that Bluesky was doing things like the old Twitter. Things like raising money, and moderating what happened on its platform, and having a board. Which Dorsey was on.
Key Takeaways
Jack Dorsey co-founded Twitter, now X, and later founded and funded an X rival, Bluesky.
He left the Bluesky board on Saturday and announced it on X.
Dorsey explained that the trouble started when Bluesky started moderating content.
I really have no idea how anyone can pretend that BlueSky wasn’t Dorsey’s idea, his project, his baby.
Oh wait, no, I know.
If thing becomes bad, then person I like wasn’t actually involved with it that much, therefore person I like is not bad.
He was not always Elon’s buddy and he was not a PoS at the time, to my knowledge. In fact he went on Joe Rogan and argued with Tim Poole and defended his liberal policies and trans protections.
Unfortunately COVID radicalized them both.
Covid didn’t “radicalize” anyone? It was just an opportunity for bad people, with more typically controlled PR images to that point, to show the world exactly who they had always been.
All these goons also have multiple performative “arguments” over the years to muddy the conversation about how evil they actually are. Vance called trump America’s Hitler, elon basically called trump a pedophile publicly post-doge and at the end of the day, they are all still hanging out ruining the world. None of it was sincere.
Would advise you to stop eating that little trail of curated breadcrumbs they leave for you, it’s a cynical game and they think you’re stupid enough to buy it.
LOL would advise you to get your head out of the sand and open your eyes to what’s happening around you.
Oh damn, harsh bud… Did Covid radicalize you?
I agree with you COVID didn’t radicalize anyone. It just so happened to occur at the same time as Trump and other countries as they took a turn towards fascism. Antiscience and anti intellectualism go with the fascist playbook. They used COVID as a kind of red herring. COVID, trans people, Muslims, border, aliens. It would have been something no matter what.
Well said. No shortage of forced panic, sacrificial boogeymen to fixate on for the worst among us
Is she getting tired of death threats from trump’s gang?
Oh no, another ‘safe space’ brought to you by rainbow capitalism turns out to be, in fact, another ‘safe space’ brought to you by rainbow capitalism.
Anyway…
I’d like to hijack the top comment to say that despite news like these, a friend of mine who’s been involved with development (interacted with developers, looked at code…) says that recent updates have made the ATProto service stack much more optimized and accessible. There’s also quite a few “Atmosphere” services already, such as leaflet.pub
And I’m gonna be honest most implementations of ActivityPub I’ve seen so far have felt more like a normal social media with a “talk to other servers!” gimmick
TIL my comment is the top comment.
But the ATProto architecture is still too fundamentally centralized, and thus easily censorable.
Quoting myself from nearly a year ago:
Bluesky is … arguably ‘federated’, but it is centralized, not decentralized.
https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20241128-bluesky-decentralization
Their model (AT Protocol) relies on a central, authoritative … ‘Relay’, that all ‘federated’ users and posts on federated PDS (personal data servers) must go through, to actually reach the ‘AppView’, ie, what all other people/users can actually see.
So, this is not a many to many, tangled spider web of connections, the way lemmy, and other parts of the actual fediverse are.
It is a top down hierarchy, a pyramid.
And Bluesky runs the Relay, the chokepoint.
If Bluesky cuts off the PDS your account is on, everyone on it is now gone.
The actual fediverse, Mastadon, Lemmy, etc, runs on ActivityPub.
In that model… every instance is essentially self contained, and every instance that is federated communicates with every other instance that is federated.
Each instance can decide what other instances they want to federate with… and users on each instance can personally block even more other users, communities, or entire instances if they choose to, but that only effects what that particular user sees.
That is what you call decentralized, approaching, or also having elements of being ‘distributed’.
Now, of course, thats a bit simplified, the AppView is actually more complex than that, the ‘Relay’ is in actuality a bunch of different machines in different physical locations…
… but it still acts as a monolithic layer, a gate keeper, controlled by a board of directors.
Is anybody else running their own Relay yet?
Thats a genuine question, I totally wrote off BlueSky long ago.
If not, this is all still fundamentally the same.
If you just see ActivityPub as ‘normal social media that can talk to other servers’… you don’t get it.
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There’s no single centralized chokepoint that is under corporate control.
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Costs of running your own ActPub instance are generally not exhorbitantly expensive, thus the entire paradigm is more ‘small d’ democratic, has a lower barrier to entry and is thus more practically distributable.
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Does anyone know what desitions he made at Automattic?
> Schneider, who will continue working as a partner at the venture capital firm True Ventures while at Bluesky, was previously CEO of the Wordpress parent company, Automattic, from 2006 to 2014.
Does anyone know what desitions he made at Automattic?
given the way automattic has run for the last 15 years, probably the bad ones.
