TL;DR: Mozilla’s translation bot on Support Mozilla (that is currently overwriting user contributions is based on the closed source, copyright infringing LLM, Google Gemini. This is in spite of Mozilla claiming that they are at the forefront of open source AI, and belies their exhortations to choose to build open source AI and data sets. Although Mozilla has experience in attracting open contributions for data sets in projects like Common Voice, Mozilla is using a closed data set to overwrite open contributions. Since (paid) Gemini queries do not train the model, Mozillians can expect to correct errors every time the bot automatically updates an article.



Google puts up a major chunk of the funding Mozzia gets in a year. If you don’t want them being the default choice in search or having your queries fed to their bots then start putting up the money to make their support no longer required.
Not really conductive as long as most funds are siphoned by the C-suite ranks. Get rid of the C-fat first, maybe even turn Mozilla into a co-op, then have the People fund it.
Their support isn’t required though, it’s desired.
Mozilla have millions of $, they are actively investing in various money making schemes (sorry, financial investment vehicles) well outwith the original scope of Mozilla.
They take the money because they want the money, they could refuse it any time they want. But they won’t, because they don’t want to. They’re not a poor FOSS project with an independent developer that needs donations to survive, stop treating them like they are.
Mozilla has created some brilliant software, but they’re leaving their original mission behind, burning goodwill with many people around the world, and setting themselves up to be shunned by the open source community the second a viable alternative pops up.
I just hope the alternative doesn’t take too long to materialize
Everyone is invited to help the NetSurf project.
Librewolf is my stopgap atm. We’ll see that the future holds.
I didn’t hear anything bad about Servo.org
You wouldn’t hear anything bad about it because the project, as far as I can tell, us like 4 months old. It’s far too young for any daily use and to see what the project matures into.
Servo is not a new browser engine. Have you done your research?
It has been in the works since 2012.
Yeah, you’re right. I looked at the GitHub releases which seems to be a very new thing. Their updates in their website goes back much further!
There’s no way individual donations from ordinary people could match Google’s. They’re also likely to be less reliable.
Mozilla doesn’t even ask for donations from users a whole lot, and the money they receive mostly doesn’t go into development of the browser:
These funds directly support advocacy campaigns (i.e. asking big tech companies to protect your privacy), research and publications like the *Privacy Not Included buyer’s guide and Internet Health Report, and covers a portion of our annual MozFest gathering.
https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/help/#frequently-asked-questions
Thank god. I do really believe all the Google money is actively stifling innovation at Mozilla. The only thing they can’t do is building a better browser than chrome is, for fear of becoming a viable alternative again.
So they use the money for some CEO pay. and weird projects while Firefox further falls from popularity.
I hope for the day Firefox’s market share has dropped to a level tha Google just won’t pay any money anymore for the default search engine deal.
That day - and not one day before - innovation will resume.
Voting with your wallet doesn’t work when you are the product. They don’t care about your money when google’s will dwarf any amount individuals could hope to raise, even collectively. Nothing prevents them from just taking both your money and google’s and changing absolutely nothing.
I did. I rage-signed up for a monthly contribution to the Servo project the last time I read about something Mozilla did.
I thought Mozilla lost the google funding in the monopoly ruling?
Looks like it’d still a thing
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/09/google-antitrust-ruling-firefox-search-deal
What’s the amount they get donated or funded? So we know how much to raise yearly.
Something around $500M and $600M yearly. And it’s around 90% of all Mozilla revenue
That’s a lot of donations!