Tried to support the industry by buying a movie a watch a lot. Well, no more. If I need a pihole just to watch a movie I own, that’s ridiculous.
“It also enables the delivery of advertising content”
They already paid for the product! Double-dipping assholes
I wonder if these people think everyone wants to be advertised to.
I don’t think they care
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Someone I know who is currently on a pseudoscience and conspiracy theory arc genuinely believes that personalized ads are good because then you can easily buy things you know you’ll like
sadly, i too heard that from somebody 🤷
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Some people are allergic to researching their purchases
I’ve bought things from personalized ads before. But mostly they’re annoying. And creepy.
the idea of “just browse the web normally with someone looking over your shoulder taking notes on what you like to then sell you shit - or even better, it infers what you like using magic and can even tell when you’re pregnant before you know it yourself” can be nice in some ways I guess, but yeah I agree. no thanks.
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triple-dipping, they also get your data.
No no, you see. You didn’t pay for the product but the license for the product. Now it makes sense, right?
I don’t understand. Maybe a set of adverts would help me?
Yeah I just straight up pirate movies now, I don’t even try to hide it from people anynore. It’s clear to me at this point that all these companies care about is getting richer by the minute off the backs of the common man, and their excuses for doing so are getting more and more pathetic.
I have friends who work in the film industry and they pirate movies and TV shows all the time.
Me too. By the time a movie or TV show actually makes it to distribution, most people who worked on it have already made their paycheck and moved on to the next project.
What capitalists are doing is intentionally sharpening the contradiction, probably with the goal of a revolution or reform in their favor (as can be seen in the USA right now). The neat thing about sharpened contradictions is that it will inevitably lead to change, the bad thing is that this is a massively organized effort with tons of planning and coordination, and The People:tm: are not ready for it.
Pirating movies is pretty good though. Mainstream media always manages to exploit labor incredibly harshly, to the point of suicide, and that behavior should not be rewarded IMO. Of course there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but one can dream. As an aside, pirated media is also incredibly convenient. There is a great community spirit in the piracy community.
Piracy is now better and safer than using “real” discs. Well done, Sony.
Welp, blu ray playyæer sure don’t need no internet - gimme dumb technology plz
usually bluray and 4k players need to connect to the internet at least once in order to download the codecs, but like yea I disconnect mine from the internet right after
blu ray playyæer
Did a cat jump on your keyboard?
Why is your Blu-ray player connected to the internet?
VLC on a Linux laptop. You think my Blu-ray player has the ability to take screenshots?
Yes, and I assume you wrote this message on your blu-ray player and typed it with your remote
You never heard of a capture card?
Can I introduce you to my friend MakeMKV?
MakeMKV handles my Blu-ray decryption for VLC
Never heard of HDCP?
HDCP is easy to bypass. Almost laughable really, there are tons of “Splitters” and Strippers on the market. I’ve also seem a few totally legal capture cards that can read it directly.
You can crack anything if you are remotely motivated.
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Never say never. Especially since we’re only in the beginning of the AI era, AI de-compilation is starting to become feasible, AI cracking probably will too.
Disconnect from the internet while watching. Close it when you finished. Restart your computer, then connect to the internet and you should be fine I think
I’m all good. I really wasn’t asking for tech support. Just sharing something with the community. Don’t worry, Sony didn’t get my data.
Thanks for the helpful thoughts though.
Does VLC report this? Kinda seems like the sorta thing that only works on actual players.
It tried to. I use an opnsense firewall which caught it. I copied my logs and submitted the domains to a popular dns blocklist and they’ve already been merged.
Thanks!
Was this like an iso file of the disk that you played played in vlc? And you’re saying it tried to ping that telemetry domain? I’m not quite understanding the context here.
Physical disc in a cd/dvd/bluray drive
So you put the physical disk in and it plays through vlc player on your pc?
If so, are you sure it was vlc that pinged the domain and not the bluray player?
Both devices made ping attempts. Not hard to confirm with firewall logs bc of timestamps and internal IP addresses.
VLC can play blurays?
VLC plays everything
But for real, does it play blu rays? I was under the impression it did not and you had to get that $100 program.
It does. Last time I did it, though, it required a couple of files to get going. Have a look here for info: http://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/
It does but I use makemkv for the Blu-ray decryption
Yeah it seems really strange. I know some Bluray players support Internet connectivity but unless they’re also a Streaming box I don’t see why people would connect them to the internet. Really it seems like the majority of people don’t so not sure how useful this feature is.
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The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams ... It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what ... Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC ... These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake. - Steve Heckler, senior vice president of Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc, August 2000
quote from https://web.archive.org/web/20010201204600/http://www.nyfairuse.org/sony.xhtml
via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
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there is simply too much at stake
OUR MONAYS!1!!!
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PS3 was one of the first affordable blu ray players right off the bat with internet connectivity
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Most if not all 4k players are network enabled due to the DRM that is on the 4k medium. From my experiences, they usually need to connect to the internet to download the keys at least once before anything 4k works. DVD and BD usually work without issue though.
How goofy.
Like, I understand most people have internet at home nowadays but come on, I thought a big point of Physical Media was not needing the damn internet to work!
Mine can because it also has Netflix, Hulu, etc. built in.
Do the apps still work? The biggest issues I’ve found with Bluray players like that is that the Streaming Apps on them tend to become Obsolete and broken fairly quickly.
Playstations
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You can take the debate bro out of Reddit but not the Reddit out of the debate bro, huh.
fucking everything connects to the internet these days dude. You fridge, you tv, hell probably even your toothbrush what the hell comment is this? “what you are driving at” is a world that no longer exists, this smart tech shit is being shoved down all our throats as we speak.
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A 1080p player does not require internet connectivity but 4K/UHD discs need to phone home in order to get decryption keys on a per disc basis. There is a lot of discussion about this in the MakeMKV forums if you want to do a deeper dive.
4K/UHD discs need to phone home in order to get decryption keys on a per disc basis
Is that true for hardware players? I’ve only seen people talking about software players like Power DVD having to get keys from the Internet.
Which is why I am incredulous at the idea that a Blu-ray player needs to connect to the internet
Is it really that hard to imagine a future where DRM encroaches further and further on us? Your fuckin blue ray player might not connect to the internet but it is still region locked.
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Ignore them, they are a troll and aren’t likely acting in good faith.
my quick search for “Blu Ray players” brought up a list. 4 of the first 5 i saw were also “streaming boxes” with wi-fi. the 5th had an Ethernet port. didn’t really check further but looks like it’s pretty common now.
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Maybe sorta to update keys? But I think they will also do that if you pop in a newer disc. It’s been known to cause an issue with playback of older disks, I think.
The whole process of buying media is broken.
They can, many have Ethernet ports and even Wifi in some cases but there’s no practical reason to do so unless they have streaming features you want to use but most don’t, and the ones that do often aren’t updated so you’ll find the Streaming Apps on them usually don’t work anymore.
This is the evil shit
At least you can watch BDs without a web connection still. For now…
Also, LibreDrive is a thing for hacking BD drives with in order to bypass DRM, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that got blocked and/or taken down at some point.
My Blu Ray player has never been connected to the web, its region free, but doesn’t do 4k-BD. My Linux HTPC is configured with an ASUS libredrive, and has MakeMKV installed. The Linux variant of MakeMKV is borked right now, in a good way! The 30 day trial period doesn’t expire!
If I wanna watch a 4k bluray I have to rip it and watch it on my PC, because I’d rather do that than get a BD player that needs internet
The author posts new temporary keys on the official forums regularly, in one of the stickies.
Havent needed them in months, I’ve been at 30 days remaining in evaluation period for 3 months.
Haha no it doesn’t.
unplugs NIC
rips blu-ray with blu-ray drive running old firmware
Or… Here me out, don’t do that.
By giving them money, from their perspective, you’ve accepted their t&c. If they get data or not, that’s just icing on the cake.
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borrows blu-ray instead of buying it
The fact that they don’t give you the option to “refuse” but rather to “skip” annoys me to such an extent. Leave us alone, you never needed to do this.
LMFAO. And when I tell people to take care about leaving Jellyfin public with their open API endpoint issues… Yeah Sony WILL abuse your shit… They already do it.
I run a pivpn setup so that nothing is exposed to the internet at all. It’s just too dangerous now. It was bad back in the day, but now I literally have bots trying to join any public facing Minecraft server. It’s so many times worse now than it was a decade ago.
I guess the bots are trying to find servers still vulnerable to the Log4J exploit. Man that was a juicy one 👀
Oh man. I have an open minecraft server for my kids and their friends. Every few weeks I have someone show up to the server leaving notes or interacting with us trying to educate me on whitelisting.
I get more “educators” than i do bots. It’s actually quite annoying. I dont know what accounts these kids login with, you’re not educating me. The server is literally for 6-8 year olds. It’s been wiped 100s of times. I don’t care. Stop. The server is grief resistant anyway. And my ban list is long (and getting at least one longer). /little rant
I mean, it would take seconds for someone to log in and paste bad links in chat/send weird messages so yeah, a server for a 6-8 yr olds is absolutely one I would turn whitelist on for.
You assume that those links would work. Kids machines have DNS whitelists.
I’m not worried.
I have never had any of my MC servers run without a whitelist, even the one I had publicly listed on planet minecraft back in the day. You should know who has access to your machines on some level.
I used to run servers a decade ago and open was fine. Never had a random join. Crazy to think bots are trying random IPs now, probably would whitelist in that case
Can you explain the issues with Jellyfin? Idk about any of this. What are the issues?
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
The biggest issue is that the video stream endpoint is not auth’d. Meaning that if someone guesses the MD5 hash for a file in your library it will play. Sounds at first glance like it’s unlikely to matter. Except that MD5 is generated based on the file’s filepath. So if you use standard naming conventions on paths that are common (/movies/Big Bucks Bunny(2008)/Big Bucks Bunny.mkv for example being simple and easy), eg defaults for a docker container using *arr suites. Then it’s possible for a precompiled hash list to check for file against your server.
So now add a company like Sony, they can generate all their library as a hash list, hit your server with millions of requests over the course of a couple of hours and map out how much of their content you have on your server. If any of it has never had a physical release (since you’re allowed to backup your own content) you’re completely fucked, and now will have to prove in court that you own ALL the content. And possibly… since it’s open endpoint, it could be argued that you’re even distributing openly (though unlikely argument… but do you really want to chance that?).
Ultimately if your setup is “Standard” you’re asking for a lawsuit.
Answers to “fix” this:
Map your paths in weird folders. instead of /movies/<movie> add in a folder like a GUID, so /eH4i67ZwByjLao3z7nHWKdS5ogysm68x/movies/<movie>. Make sure this occurs INSIDE your docker container if you’re using docker. Will break any precompiled hashes… though possible to hit a collision and still be “found”.
Setup fail2ban or other brute force blocking technology on your reverse proxy.
Use a private network setup… whether VPN, SDN, whatever… tailscale, zerotier, etc… (This will break TVs that don’t have vpn capabilities)
Add another auth in front of Jellyfin. (This breaks ALL Jellyfin apps)
The real answer would be the developers closing the unauth endpoints… But it’s been an issue for over 4 years now… They’re not going to fix it anytime soon as they don’t want to “break compatibility”, which is a pretty dumb excuse IMO.
There’s another issue where you shouldn’t give accounts to people you don’t trust as one user can attack another user AFTER login. So make sure you trust everyone you let have access… they can screw with your profile and do stuff you might not expect.
Interesting. And I assume this is an issue on Windows too?
Does it still work by clicking skip?
What happens of you hit skip. Does it not let you play the disk?
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Politely asking the spying-on-you-box to not spy on you
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Okay InbredParasite@lemmy.zip
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It let’s you continue no problem.
Just like most modern video games these days that have the second agreement after the EULA. They make it seem necessary, knowing 99% of people will see all of the words and just skip to the bottom and hit “accept.”
Still gross, but not really the problem that people here seem to think it is.
