• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Amazon boycott March 7th through forever. There’s no need to give them an end date. Our action is completely toothless when we literally spell out for them exactly when we’ll come crawling back start giving them money again.

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    10 months ago

    Lol, this is the first one that I’m mildly inconvenienced by participating in. Wheel of Time S3 comes out somewhere in there doesn’t it?

    I can wait.

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        10 months ago

        The thing is, I really don’t want them to cancel it. I’ve been signing up for it and then cancelling my subscription when it’s finished, and then pirating it anyway. I just want them to see it as valuable, so they don’t try to squeeze 14 books worth of content into one shitty finale because it’s not making them money.

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          10 months ago

          Yes, I can see how you might not want to boycott a company if you’re worried about them not making money because of it.

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            10 months ago

            Oh please, that’s not even close to what I said. I just don’t want them to cancel a show I like and you’re all acting like I’m swinging from Bezos’ dick. You’re all rabid.

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              10 months ago

              The world is on fire and you’re worried about your favorite TV show? Come on dude. These boycotts will not work if we can’t even sacrifice the bare minimum. And yes, a TV show is the bare minimum.

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                10 months ago

                No, you come on. You’re are misrepresenting what I actually said. If you actually read my post, you’ll see that I plan to participate in the boycott regardless. I made a throwaway comment about how it would be “mildly inconvenient” that I’d miss the opening, but also that I would do it regardless.

                So what, I’m not even allowed to acknowledge that Prime has stuff I’m interested in? I have to boycott it, and deny that it holds any value whatsoever?

                That’s bullshit. It’s entirely possible to both acknowledge that there are decent Amazon produced shows AND think that the company is evil as fuck and want to boycott them.

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    10 months ago

    That’s not a boycott. That’s waiting until payday to shop.

    There needs to be a succinct way to say “Never shop Amazon again if possible. If you absolutely have no other option, don’t do it March 7-14.”

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I week long boycott will do nothing. If that is the most you are prepared to inconvenience yourself to send a message, then just give up now.

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    10 months ago

    Would be better to plan this a little farther out but I am already on a permanent boycott so I support this obviously.

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    10 months ago

    I completely ditched amazon - private and for my company. there are so many other options, slightly less convenient admittedly, but also slightly cheaper. works for me!

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    10 months ago

    Boycotts like this do nothing because the people most willing to “participate” are people who already don’t purchase from Amazon. Even if you were able to get a critical mass of people to participate for even 3 months. So what? Amazon will post 1 bad quarter and then things go back to business as usual. Nothing happens. They don’t even really lose any money. At least none out of pocket, of which they have plenty for things such as this.

    Amazon is a subscription model. You want to hurt them, then hurt their subscriptions. Don’t boycott them, cancel Prime.

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    10 months ago

    Do you guys really rely on Amazon so much that one week without feels like a protest? Seriously?

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      10 months ago

      I’ve genuinely never used amazon to shop, not even once, but only because it’s always been the more expensive option compared to smaller shops. Right now seeing 5070ti tuf goes for 1400 on amazon, 1300 at my local store.

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      10 months ago

      Here’s the thing. If I could shop somewhere else I would. Do you know what sets Amazon apart from other places? It’s their delivery, pure and simple. I ordered 3 TV’s from Best Buy. It took them a week to ship them. I had to pay for shipping on top of the $600 I spent. On the day I was supposed to receive them I was home all day. I got a notification they were an hour out. So I went outside and waited for them to arrive. They never arrived, but i got an email telling me they had stopped by but I wasn’t home.

      So I had to go down to their depot to pick them up. I am stuck using public transit so Imagine trying to get 3 40 inch TV’s home on a bus. I ended up having to get a cab half way home with money I couldn’t afford to spend just to get it all home.

      So for me, That is the main reason I buy from Amazon. Although lately I’ve been shopping with Uber from Walmart.

      And Fuck Purolator.

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        10 months ago

        I haven’t bought a single TV in my whole life and I haven’t missed anything important. Whenever I am somewhere where there’s a TV and I’ve got nothing better to do or I’m just curious I zap through the channels whithout finding anything remotely interesting or entertaining 99% of the time. I really wonder what people want with these ad-infested, annoying trashcans. Aren’t you dumb enough, yet? Try heavy drinking. Preferrably methanol or break fluid…

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      10 months ago

      I will admit it’s been super convenient if I need shampoo or toner or drinks or dozens of other things to just take 60 seconds to order it from Amazon and it’s here in a couple days. Well it used to be. Now things often take many days to ship. I canceled Prime about 6 months ago.

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        10 months ago

        You just listed things that you can pick up at any number of local stores. That stupid convenience of ordering crap instead of just adding it to the shopping list is why people think going a week without using Amazon will “disrupt the system.” This is exactly the problem.

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          10 months ago

          It’s kinda sad, I’ve been back and forth with online ordering actually being a “logistical god-send” for our chaotic consumerism. I mean think about it, one full delivery truck that can bring in a full neighborhoods worth of goods for the week/day versus every single car being driven to only transport a portion or less of a trunk (sometimes driving out for even one item).

          In a perfect “non-monopoly/Amazon couldn’t exist world” where everyone could plan ahead and have everything shipped, you could save on store/display costs (including environmental) and just have a smaller distribution center from semi-trucks to box trucks for local deliveries. Could even go from box truck to local end point distribution (biking,etc) so city spaces could go car-less. Keep the local farmers/co-op markets for socializing/freshest produce-shipping and bob’s your uncle.

          Instead we have the worlds most horrific amalgamation where you have underpaid people in fucking V8 trucks delivering a few bags of groceries someone has “door dashed” from the local grocery store or just a burger from a local joint so they don’t have to cook because they only have an hour of free time a day.

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          10 months ago

          Yes but when I live 40 miles from a city and hate wandering around multiple stores looking for things they may or may not have. But I know I need to change.

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    7 days ago

    I’ll just continue never using Amazon like I always have.

    These kinds of boycotts seem so silly and performative while doing absolutely nothing for the cause you’re trying to promote.

    Like sure I get maybe you’re trying to get people interested in boycotts as a starter but if they can’t even not use Amazon for longer than 7 days, I don’t see much hope for that kind of person doing any other kind of meaningful boycott.

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    10 months ago

    Those fuckers stole my digital comics library. I already stopped using Twitch and I havent bought their shitty and useless Chinese made electronics in years. Fuck Nazis, fuck Amazon, fuck Google, Fuck Trump, Fuck Musk, Fuck America! (the last part I take away when you vote the Orange Fuck Face away!)

  • MayorOfAlmonds@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Amazon is just so convenient, it’s hard to say no. If I need new socks, I can press one button and somebody brings it to my front door in a couple hours at a cheap price. Alternative? Order them somewhere else online and get them in a week or drive 20 minutes, deal with parking + crowds to get them a couple dollars more expensive.

    It’s a crap situation but I understand how Amazon got so big.

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    10 months ago

    A whole 7 days??? Gosh gee willakers!!! You think people can uphold a boycott a whole 7 days???

    Look. Boycotts are effective, but you gotta be stubborn. It’s gotta be “boycott from now on” with no end date.

    Otherwise, it’ll just look like normal fluctuations in their business.

    “Oh, this week was slightly down…ah, but then it stopped. We’re good!”

    But if you boycott forever, then their numbers continuously go down. And if you get other people boycotting, those numbers go down faster.

    THAT’S how you make an impact.

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      10 months ago

      How do you get people who can’t see themselves boycotting indefinitely? You get them used to it by getting them on board to boycott for a fixed length of time. Ideally, as they warm up to the idea, you get them to boycott for longer.

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        10 months ago

        True, but 7 days isn’t enough time for that. I’ve gone weeks between purchasing the kinds of things Amazon delivers, so it’d just be normal. 2+ months is probably better. Especially if those months are Nov & Dec.

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          10 months ago

          Some people can’t even handle a 1-day boycott. I think you’re overestimating the average person’s tolerance for discomfort.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t even understand what people buy so often. I can easily go a month without buying a new physical item that’s not like, food

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          10 months ago

          Yeah but it lets people feel like they’ve boycotted. Which isn’t coddling/faux activism so much as it is starter-activism. We don’t want activism to seem hard… even though we know that effective activism pretty much requires meaningful changes to behaviour which often brings discomfort. People are really out of practice and our goal is getting people into the habit

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            7 days ago

            I think it will more have the effect of “I did a boycott now I don’t have to do anything” and people like this will then get to feel good about doing absolutely nothing.

            I really don’t hold out hope anymore when I see shit like this, people aren’t going to do anything unless they become VERY UNCOMFORTABLE and VERY SUDDENLY. Posts like this depress the fuck out of me.

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      10 months ago

      In 1995 we boycotted Shell for environmental reasons and it worked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Spar

      Towing of the platform to its final position began on 11 June. By this time, the call for a boycott of Shell products was being heeded across much of continental northern Europe, damaging Shell’s profitability as well as brand image. […]

      On 20 June, Shell had decided that their position was no longer tenable, and withdrew their plan to sink the Brent Spar […]

      So it needed more than a week of concerted boycott action to bring big business into trouble, but not unlimited boycott.

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        10 months ago

        That boycott had a demand attached, to prevent the sinking of the Brent Spar buoy. Effectively “unlimited” boycott until Shell gave into the demand.

        This and the last no shop Friday thing seem mostly pointless. I mean fuck Amazon for sure but shouldn’t there be some goal? “Boycott Amazon until X, Y, and Z” not “No buy from Amazon for a week but then we’ll be back so no worries!”

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    10 months ago

    I haven’t heard about any impact last Fridays boycott had. Anyone got any numbers or info at all on it? FTR I did my part.

    • Xanza@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      The problem with boycotts like this, is they do essentially nothing… A single day, week, or even a full month of boycotts can only be successful if a critical mass of people do it at once. And frankly, they’re not going to get that.

      The people most likely to boycott Amazon and the like are people whom already don’t purchase things from Amazon, or lightly do it. Amazon if fine with that, because eventually people go back to buying. So what, they’re gonna post one bad quarter? Small price to pay for doing business.

      You can’t boycott evil businesses. You have to stop using them entirely. Forever. And most people simply aren’t willing to.

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      10 months ago

      One day boycotts will never have any impact. A lot of their money comes from prime. Prime cancelling is what they care about.