Don’t understand how this is wrong, they’re asking for your @ not your login. They’re doing a background check on you regardless so say for Facebook they’re just going to look you up anyway this just shortens the process.
If it’s a public facing account I don’t get what’s so “wrong” about this
If you’re on US soil, you have a constitutional protection against unreasonable searches, and the law is very clear about what you must provide and in what circumstances. It varies a little by area, but even in “stop and ID” states, cops generally need “reasonable suspicion” (strict legal definition) that you have, are about to, or are in the process of committing a crime. ID is limited to state issued ID, and in many areas you don’t even need to provide that, only verbally assert your name and DOB.
If the government wants additional information from me, they need an arrest and/or warrant. Or they can do their own investigation without an arrest or warrant.
Those constitutional protections should apply to visa applicants as well. If the government wants additional data, they should do a background check. They should not be able to demand things unnecessary to process the visa application like social media handles, groups they associate with, etc, because that’s a constitutional violation.
What happens if you don’t have any mainstream social media accounts? What happens if you say you don’t have any mainstream social media accounts? What happens if you give them a the handle of a respectable “friend’s” account? How far do they go to actually verify or enforce this?
I did go through this on 2022 with no real social media presence. I just didn’t add anything to that section of DS160 and got through the process with no issues
This is not new. I believe they’ve been doing this as far back as Obama (although it might have been less widespread back then).
Doesn’t make it any less wrong. They don’t need it, so they shouldn’t be allowed to ask.
Don’t understand how this is wrong, they’re asking for your @ not your login. They’re doing a background check on you regardless so say for Facebook they’re just going to look you up anyway this just shortens the process.
If it’s a public facing account I don’t get what’s so “wrong” about this
If you’re on US soil, you have a constitutional protection against unreasonable searches, and the law is very clear about what you must provide and in what circumstances. It varies a little by area, but even in “stop and ID” states, cops generally need “reasonable suspicion” (strict legal definition) that you have, are about to, or are in the process of committing a crime. ID is limited to state issued ID, and in many areas you don’t even need to provide that, only verbally assert your name and DOB.
If the government wants additional information from me, they need an arrest and/or warrant. Or they can do their own investigation without an arrest or warrant.
Those constitutional protections should apply to visa applicants as well. If the government wants additional data, they should do a background check. They should not be able to demand things unnecessary to process the visa application like social media handles, groups they associate with, etc, because that’s a constitutional violation.
What happens if you don’t have any mainstream social media accounts? What happens if you say you don’t have any mainstream social media accounts? What happens if you give them a the handle of a respectable “friend’s” account? How far do they go to actually verify or enforce this?
I did go through this on 2022 with no real social media presence. I just didn’t add anything to that section of DS160 and got through the process with no issues
People going through US immigration (I did this maybe ~20 years ago as a student) will just make a temp, low-use account or something similar.