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Tony Bark@pawb.social to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order

www.theregister.com

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Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order

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Tony Bark@pawb.social to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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      Sometimes i like Apple, sometimes I don’t. This is certainly the former.

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          Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations

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      Don’t trust the corpos but Apple has a history of resisting stuff like this.

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        No 👏 they 👏 do 👏 not.

        Get Apple’s dick out of your ass.

        They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1

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          San Bernardino shooter case?

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            That’s separate from what OP is talking about. The on-device encryption is decent

            For data on Apple’s servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage…) Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US

            https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

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      It’s irrelevant what fascism collaborators do as their side job. Fuck apple.

      https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration

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          They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.

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              Yes, I do. Don’t assume. If they win or lose is irrelevant. If they win, it will not be used for some glorious precedent forever pushing against the governments asking to compromise all software solutions, it will be just a saved implementation time for apple and a pr boost for them among people who don’t know better. If they lose, it will be yet another trust and security issue with a closed proprietary unauditable product noone security minded should be using anyway, by a shit company with ties to fascist, willingly cooperating with PRISM and who knows what other programs, in a rogue state which is a part of Five Eyes.

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      Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers

      https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/ICloud

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          It’s already gone because it’s not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you’re worried about having your data

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            No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn’t able to just see everyone else’s data.

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              No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

              1. There’s no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
              2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
              3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

              https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

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                This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.

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      Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn’t trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780’s or Dell E4300 Latitude’s with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.

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