Meta is asking California Attorney General Rob Bonta to block OpenAI’s planned transition from a non-profit to for-profit entity.
In a letter sent to Bonta’s office this week, Meta says that OpenAI “should not be allowed to flout the law by taking and reappropriating assets it built as a charity and using them for potentially enormous private gains.”
The letter, which was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal and you can read in full below, goes so far as to say that Meta believes Elon Musk is “qualified and well positioned to represent the interests of Californians in this matter.” Meta supporting Musk’s fight against OpenAI is notable given that Musk and Mark Zuckerberg were talking about literally fighting in a cage match just last year.
Fuck Meta. Fuck OpenAI.
90% of Facebook content is AI generated content now. I cant even see what my friends are doing anymore. Makes me want to just delete it. But, I do occasionally see stuff from family and friends, which is the only reason I keep it. Some people I only stay in touch with through Facebook. But seriously, fuck that company.
Pull the plug, you won’t look back.
Start a text group chat.
You won’t miss it, you think you will but you honestly won’t.
Getting rid of Facebook was easily one of the best things I’ve done. The people that are important will find other ways to reach out.
It reminds me of Facebook friends who are worthless
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Dont limit this to AI companies. All social media companies should be forced to become nonprofits and their code AGPL’d
But the AGPL does not prevent you from doing commercial activities
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People gotta eat. There’s nothing wrong with selling open source software
The most important part is that the people and the government can see how the suggestion and feed algorithms are written, so they they can make them change them if they’re found to lead in increased harm, such as suicides.
That’s beyond stupid.
If you don’t want bots scraping your content, then don’t put it up on the public internet.
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Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet? Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?
Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet?
No, I don’t think they deserve that “right.”
Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?
Ethics vary from person to person and change with the times. I think it would be ethical because I do not support the ownership of ideas.
I understand and support being for the abolition of copyright, but I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism. Artists need to eat, and food costs money under our current system.
The ownership of ideas and the ownership of a specific piece of art are different concepts, too. If artists could patent style, we’d all be breaking the law.
This is one of the funnier things I see frequently on here. People both champion free and open source code and data that can be used for anything… until it is used for anything they even mildly dislike.
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Maybe that’s what you believe, but allowing commercial use has been a core tenant of free and open source software
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Just cos meta supports it doesnt mean its bad. The enemy of my enemy etc etc
And they make a valid point. Imagine if all startups started as non profit, raised their assets with tax reduction, and then decided to go for profit when it suited them? That’s tax evasion.
Thats a great idea u mind if i steal it?
Yeah I mean zuck and musk don’t want it because it removes an extra hoop that OpenAI has to jump through to compete, but all said and done fuck all three of them for taking another leap in human achievement and making it a “profit for investors at any cost.” And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
I’m not sure they were ever pretending. I saw another Lemmy post about the Musk-OpenAI email exchanges from 8 years ago.
They seemed very open that the long term plan was to become a for profit company. They said they weren’t ready yet and rejected Elon’s demand to make him majority owner and merge with Tesla.
Open AI got a taste of that Microsoft money and everything changed. Well Sam changed course which had a lot to do with the fact that he was fired for 3 days. I do believe in the beginning they fully intended to be non profit and open.
They always planned to be for profit. It wasn’t a taste of MS money, it was the plan to sell out from the beginning. Musk got mad because they didn’t sell out to him for pennies.
"OpenAI wrote in the blog that the company and Musk both agreed that a for-profit was the next step for the startup in the fall of 2017. But when Musk failed to win majority equity, OpenAI accused him of walking away and saying the company would “fail.” "
pretty sure enemy of my enemy is still my enemy
The enemy of my enemy is a useful temporary ally.
let them fight
OpenAI was a nonprofit?!?
It’s a bit more complicated than that.
I think there’s a for-profit part of the business and a non-profit part.
The non-profit part used to own the for profit with a majority stake afaik
Why doesn’t Meta want Open AI to be a for-profit company?
And are there any examples of a company that started as a non-profit becoming for-profit?
for profit would imply they can grow even faster due to having funds to expand its service. You would be against it if you plan on having your own competing AI service(which meta clearly does)
Also, he does not want to be a Roko basilisk snack
But in that case sooner or later Roko’s basilisk will achieve its goal if you try to stop it, it will punish you in the process.
They love small government and maximum Freedom until they want the government to restrict somebody’s freedom.
I’ve remembered Babylon 5 season 4 today. Specifically the part where the “good” Vorlons and the “bad” Shadows started erasing the shit out of worlds inhabited by lesser races who made the wrong choice of having traces of the opposing side.
Point being, you are being sarcastic about Republicans and rightfully so, but Clinton administration is the one that introduced mass surveillance in the USA, and now in Syria CNN praises HTS (Sunni jihadis) and Fox News highlight SDF (secular socialists). Though from what I’ve read, apparently they really honestly talk to each other, which is a surprising kind of coexistence, HTS leader’s words I took with scepticism, but SDF leaders too say they have no problem with HTS. HTS is a mix of ex-al-Qaeda and ex-ISIS, that’s how strange this is.
OK, politics again.
On the subject - I think turning a non-profit into for-profit while not letting go of datasets and such, legally allowed to be assembled in the context of it being non-profit, is kinda theft. So Facebook is right here. Circumstantially of course.
Hadn’t considered the ethics of transferring data acquired as a non-profit. It’s an interesting moral question - although I doubt this is Meta’s motivation (which is simply to tamp down competition).
Well, for me it’s the obvious first question. I guess I’m conditioned by, well, living in Russia, where something like this has led to the current regrettable situation.
Probably the only time this year I’ll agree with Zuckerborg.
Meta sucks, but here they are very right
Meta is just trying to protect their intellectual property, meaning everything anyone has created on any of their platforms.
Yep, they own all of it, including every single comment anyone has written on Whatsapp.
Meta sucks, but here they are very
righthypocritical*Don’t worry fam I got you
Meta sucks, but here they are very
righthypocriticalimmoral*Don’t worry fam I got you
Being a hypocrite doesn’t automatically make you wrong
