• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    2 years ago

    I’ve self hosted long before the privacy/subscription nightmare of modern cloud/SaaS platforms was a thing. I do it because I enjoy it (and at the time I got started, I had crap internet so having good local services like offline Wikipedia was important).

    Not everyone has to self-host. I run lots of services, mostly for myself, but friends and family who don’t know a kernel driver from a school bus driver also use them. So the expectation that everyone self host is and always has been “pie in the sky”. And that’s okay.

    Privacy regulations are all fine and dandy, but even with the strictest ones in place, you still do not own or control your data. You’re still subscribing to services instead of owning software. You can’t extend, modify, or customize hosted software. Self hosting FOSS applications addresses all of those.

    So rather than expect everyone to self-host, we should be working towards communities offering services to one another, pooling resources, and letting those interoperate with each other.

    To make fun of an old moral panic in the 90s: “It’s 11pm. Do you know where your data is?” Yep, it’s down the street in Matt’s house.

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      2 years ago

      Right. I think the real vision isn’t that every single person self-hosts, but every community has somebody in it who does the self-hosting for the community. Everybody can be independent like villages instead of totally centralized like empires

      • rhabarba@feddit.orgBannedOP
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        2 years ago

        every community has somebody in it who does the self-hosting for the community

        That’s what (e.g.) Google and Facebook do: Host software for the community.

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      2 years ago

      You can’t extend, modify, or customize hosted software. Self hosting FOSS applications addresses all of those.

      But:

      rather than expect everyone to self-host, we should be working towards communities offering services to one another

      How exactly are “communities offering services” a different thing than “hosted software”?